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Old Dec 14th 2017, 7:26 am   #46
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It's not popular because (or maybe even in spite) of the fact that it is a load of paranoid bollocks <snip> This hate-mongering bullshit needs to be called out for what it is.


And given the diction and sentence structure used in the previous post, it looks like there's some considerable experience in astroturfing on display there.
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Portsmouth is a no-go area for me. Especially awful places surrounding it like Gosport. Christ alive, I'd rather walk through a Swedish immigrant camp with a gay pride flag carrying a pig than along an unlit road in that hell hole.

People are scumbags.
Not Muslims or Jews or Blacks or Whites or Pakistanis or Polish etc. People. The nastiness is in the human part of the make up, not the superficial or surface differences.

If you want to rant about no-go areas then include the council estates full of white British folk too.
You're right about Gosport, what a dump.
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Yes, the Saudi bureaucracy will freak out. Are you still technically married or not? If not she has no chance to come with you.

While Saudis break their own cultural norms with regularity and often just for sport - not to mention, Westerners often don't understand what really is a norm and what is just gossip or long-ago tradition - as anyone in the Middle East knows there are one set of rules for locals and a different one for foreigners (and then different ones again depending on where the foreigner is from).

Do as they say and not as they do.
No, no longer married and havenĀ“t been for close to two decades.

But talking about No-go areas, I originate from Blackburn or Blackburnistan as it is now known and there are areas where, although they do not have a gate and a barrier they are not good places for a white man to be, areas like around corporation park or the aptly named "Khyber pass." Now I live on Malta and even here are places where I would not want to be alone at night, Albert Town and Marsa are for all practical reasons African black ghettos with non of the happy and colourful ambient of African culture.
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But talking about No-go areas, I originate from Blackburn or Blackburnistan as it is now known and there are areas where, although they do not have a gate and a barrier they are not good places for a white man to be, areas like around corporation park or the aptly named "Khyber pass." Now I live on Malta and even here are places where I would not want to be alone at night, Albert Town and Marsa are for all practical reasons African black ghettos with non of the happy and colourful ambient of African culture.
I used to work in Blackburn; I was never there at night, but some parts I saw during the day weren't intimidating but they certainly weren't culturally diverse. I was barked at one day on a customer site by a colleague (I was a director, he was an project manager in his late 50's), and he later came to apologise after it was explained to me that he was born, grew up and worked his whole life in Blackburn, but had seen the value of his house decline each year to the point where it was virtually worthless, and lived surrounded by men in pyjamas and women whose faces he couldn't see, which affected him 24/7.
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You're right about Gosport, what a dump.
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which affected him 24/7.
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I just read a news story about Miss Iraq taking a selfie with Miss Israel, and being forced to flee to Los Angeles because of all the death threats she got about it.

Did Miss Israel also have to flee? If not, why not?
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I just read a news story about Miss Iraq taking a selfie with Miss Israel, and being forced to flee to Los Angeles because of all the death threats she got about it.

Did Miss Israel also have to flee? If not, why not?
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Why did she flee to Los Angeles, and not to, say, Germany?
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We spent most of our time in the Middle East, in remote areas.

My wife always wore the abaya and shayla in public, which drew the appreciation of locals (Gulf locals), and saved her abuse and unwanted attention/stares from Pakistani/Bangladeshi men out on the streets.

In the cities (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Doha etc) she never felt a need to wear an abaya or shayla.

Shayla is far more important than abaya but most Westerners think it's the other way around. Few Egyptian or Jordanian women, for instance, wear an abaya - conservative Western-style clothing is OK - but all will wear the shayla. Arabs will gladly point out to anyone who asks that the shayla is a must but the abaya optional.

In my organisation however the Westerners thought they knew better than the locals, and would advise women that it was OK to head out to rural areas with abaya but not shayla, which got them branded as prostitutes and some awful comments and gestures from men.

The locals also hate it when Western men wear dishdashas and felt it (at best) very weird and (at worst) insulting. That is their national dress and we are not of that land. Again, well-meaning but stupid Westerners would sometimes try that thinking they would blend in better, and would ignore freely given advice from locals not to do it.

It's their country, we do what they advise.
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We spent most of our time in the Middle East, in remote areas.

My wife always wore the abaya and shayla in public, which drew the appreciation of locals (Gulf locals), and saved her abuse and unwanted attention/stares from Pakistani/Bangladeshi men out on the streets.

In the cities (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Doha etc) she never felt a need to wear an abaya or shayla.

Shayla is far more important than abaya but most Westerners think it's the other way around. Few Egyptian or Jordanian women, for instance, wear an abaya - conservative Western-style clothing is OK - but all will wear the shayla. Arabs will gladly point out to anyone who asks that the shayla is a must but the abaya optional.

In my organisation however the Westerners thought they knew better than the locals, and would advise women that it was OK to head out to rural areas with abaya but not shayla, which got them branded as prostitutes and some awful comments and gestures from men.

The locals also hate it when Western men wear dishdashas and felt it (at best) very weird and (at worst) insulting. That is their national dress and we are not of that land. Again, well-meaning but stupid Westerners would sometimes try that thinking they would blend in better, and would ignore freely given advice from locals not to do it.

It's their country, we do what they advise.
Agree it's always worth actually finding out instead of listening to Janet at the Yacht Club for sensitive issues. Good post

That being said, I've highlighted some comments that made me chuckle when read in this order: red, green, orange.

Never forget that we're light years ahead of anyone who's take on life is to abuse people in the street for not adhering to the requirements of an ancient fairy tale fiction book.
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Never forget that we're light years ahead of anyone who's take on life is to abuse people in the street for not adhering to the requirements of an ancient fairy tale fiction book.
Oh I dunno, I thought about running over some kid this morning as he was wearing a Citeh shirt!

Seriously though, who would think wearing a dish dash would be a good idea...?
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