Nuclear Madness
Sep 21st 2015, 1:54 pm
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Oct 21st 2015, 6:29 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
So the deal will probably be signed today or in the next few days. Not that that's the end of it, just means it'll be a little more difficult to de-rail. UK increased the proportion of renewable energy to 25% this year, up from 17% last year. Hinckley will produce 7% of the UK's energy needs. So in 1 year the increase in renewable energy exceeded Hinckley's output. Clearly that rate of increase is unsustainable in terms of actual generation, but in terms of usable electricity there are still massive gains to be made from development of storage technology (make the electricity when the sun shines and the wind blows, store it for later use--not exactly a novel concept): maybe we could pay the French and Chinese to develop that technology instead.
Oct 21st 2015, 6:58 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
So the deal will probably be signed today or in the next few days. Not that that's the end of it, just means it'll be a little more difficult to de-rail. UK increased the proportion of renewable energy to 25% this year, up from 17% last year. Hinckley will produce 7% of the UK's energy needs. So in 1 year the increase in renewable energy exceeded Hinckley's output. Clearly that rate of increase is unsustainable in terms of actual generation, but in terms of usable electricity there are still massive gains to be made from development of storage technology (make the electricity when the sun shines and the wind blows, store it for later use--not exactly a novel concept): maybe we could pay the French and Chinese to develop that technology instead.
Mum has had them put in and is laughing. Capital is repayed in something like 7ish years for her so yes it's longer term but it is already a huge cost saving for her.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:02 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
I don't get why solar panels for housing in the UK isn't something that's massively subsidised? (It might be, I don't know for sure though).
Mum has had them put in and is laughing. Capital is repayed in something like 7ish years for her so yes it's longer term but it is already a huge cost saving for her.
Mum has had them put in and is laughing. Capital is repayed in something like 7ish years for her so yes it's longer term but it is already a huge cost saving for her.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:05 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
Solar panels, wind, hydro, etc. are not base-load solutions either.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:06 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
So the deal will probably be signed today or in the next few days. Not that that's the end of it, just means it'll be a little more difficult to de-rail. UK increased the proportion of renewable energy to 25% this year, up from 17% last year. Hinckley will produce 7% of the UK's energy needs. So in 1 year the increase in renewable energy exceeded Hinckley's output. Clearly that rate of increase is unsustainable in terms of actual generation, but in terms of usable electricity there are still massive gains to be made from development of storage technology (make the electricity when the sun shines and the wind blows, store it for later use--not exactly a novel concept): maybe we could pay the French and Chinese to develop that technology instead.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:08 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
It is, with a feed-in tariff which the govt has just announced it plans to scrap. ****ing unbelievable timing with Hinckley. Please go to Greenpeace website and sign the petition / lobby your MP (yeah, I know you don't have one, but **** niceties on this). I'll post a link shortly.
Even free ones - where companies take the feed in payments and you just get savings are still good if *you* can't afford to shell out the X,000 quid for them initially.
Imagine if every new build had solar panels on the roof. Sure they'd build it into the price but a Taylor Woodrow / Barratt etc will benefit from the economies of scale associated with an x,000 house development...the savings won't be, but could be, passed on to consumer and maybe regulated further with some government subsidies to ensure they get the panels installed without too much cost being passed on.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:14 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
Solutions: as you correct yourself, "renewables" are the solution once storage is sorted.
A long way off: You think Hinckley will be on-line on schedule? And the several others to follow which will be necessary as everything else is shut down? That's 15 years away. Even relatively-inefficient, not fully-developed storage which will need changing out within 10 years as the technology develops would be worth implementing. Unfortunately an elected govt which needs to be re-elected won't go for that: perhaps we should adopt the Chinese model.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:15 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
Solar economical: depends where you live. Although the sun shines constantly in Ilkley, the rest of God's own country has perma-drizzle.
Solutions: as you correct yourself, "renewables" are the solution once storage is sorted.
A long way off: You think Hinckley will be on-line on schedule? And the several others to follow which will be necessary as everything else is shut down? That's 15 years away. Even relatively-inefficient, not fully-developed storage which will need changing out within 10 years as the technology develops would be worth implementing. Unfortunately an elected govt which needs to be re-elected won't go for that: perhaps we should adopt the Chinese model.
Solutions: as you correct yourself, "renewables" are the solution once storage is sorted.
A long way off: You think Hinckley will be on-line on schedule? And the several others to follow which will be necessary as everything else is shut down? That's 15 years away. Even relatively-inefficient, not fully-developed storage which will need changing out within 10 years as the technology develops would be worth implementing. Unfortunately an elected govt which needs to be re-elected won't go for that: perhaps we should adopt the Chinese model.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:20 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
Just done some reading, if you get in quick you can keep the good feed in tariff.
Even free ones - where companies take the feed in payments and you just get savings are still good if *you* can't afford to shell out the X,000 quid for them initially.
Imagine if every new build had solar panels on the roof. Sure they'd build it into the price but a Taylor Woodrow / Barratt etc will benefit from the economies of scale associated with an x,000 house development...the savings won't be, but could be, passed on to consumer and maybe regulated further with some government subsidies to ensure they get the panels installed without too much cost being passed on.
Even free ones - where companies take the feed in payments and you just get savings are still good if *you* can't afford to shell out the X,000 quid for them initially.
Imagine if every new build had solar panels on the roof. Sure they'd build it into the price but a Taylor Woodrow / Barratt etc will benefit from the economies of scale associated with an x,000 house development...the savings won't be, but could be, passed on to consumer and maybe regulated further with some government subsidies to ensure they get the panels installed without too much cost being passed on.
We (the UK) increased renewable production this year by an amount equivalent to Hinckley's production. We could save that amount again by enforced / subsidised / well-marketed energy-saving techniques.
Oct 21st 2015, 7:41 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
Please summarise?
Oct 21st 2015, 8:04 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
Nothing's perfect, which is why diversified renewable sources are necessary. All these technologies are relatively new in terms of large-scale commercial exploitation, and while dirty base-load generation is required (I include nuclear in that definition, but disagree with the necessity of including it in that base-load), with concerted action at all levels (incentivised from the top) the proportion of dirty base-load : renewable can and needs to change dramatically.
If the entire situation was managed like a business, the message from the top would be JFDI, with direction, support and resources applied as necessary. I'd re-nationalise the entire industry, and put proven leaders and changers in place to manage it.
Oct 21st 2015, 8:05 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
No. Did their engineers lie about the efficiency?
Nothing's perfect, which is why diversified renewable sources are necessary. All these technologies are relatively new in terms of large-scale commercial exploitation, and while dirty base-load generation is required (I include nuclear in that definition, but disagree with the necessity of including it in that base-load), with concerted action at all levels (incentivised from the top) the proportion of dirty base-load : renewable can and needs to change dramatically.
If the entire situation was managed like a business, the message from the top would be JFDI, with direction, support and resources applied as necessary. I'd re-nationalise the entire industry, and put proven leaders and changers in place of managing it.
Nothing's perfect, which is why diversified renewable sources are necessary. All these technologies are relatively new in terms of large-scale commercial exploitation, and while dirty base-load generation is required (I include nuclear in that definition, but disagree with the necessity of including it in that base-load), with concerted action at all levels (incentivised from the top) the proportion of dirty base-load : renewable can and needs to change dramatically.
If the entire situation was managed like a business, the message from the top would be JFDI, with direction, support and resources applied as necessary. I'd re-nationalise the entire industry, and put proven leaders and changers in place of managing it.
Oct 21st 2015, 8:17 am
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Oct 23rd 2015, 9:53 am
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Re: Nuclear Madness
As part and parcel of the Government’s position of forcing future taxpayers to pay over the odds for Chinese investment in the UK, it appears that they are also taking concerted action to suppress dissent. Arrests for peaceful demonstrators? In UK? That is not mass demonstration risking damage to life, limb and property—it was 3 people, 1 alone and 2 together. Arrested for “conspiracy to commit threatening behaviour”: by holding up banners proposing democracy. ****ing democracy. The echoes from Tiananmen Square are loud and alarming.
UK accused of doing China's bidding after police raid home of Tiananmen Square survivor over peaceful protest | Home News | News | The Independent
UK accused of doing China's bidding after police raid home of Tiananmen Square survivor over peaceful protest | Home News | News | The Independent