DXBtoDOH

Good quality shoes provide excellent support for the feet. Take your trainers, walk a mile in an old pair versus a brand new pair, you'll surely feel the difference. Athletes are always going through new trainers every few months for this reason. Regular people should change their trainers at least once a year.

As for my shoes, no, they are not faddish shoes. I don't pay attention to those. I only have one pair of trainers and it gets replaced yearly. The shoes I have could have been bought 20 years ago, 50 years ago, and will be bought 20 years from now and 50 years from now.

I'm a firm believer that in most things there's a level of quality that justifies spending to have that quality, but once you reach that threshold then beyond it it's other factors that come into play. And it's utility. And there's no proper answer.

weasel decentral

Nice cafe racer style bike, looks really good. My only problem with BMV is that they cannot seem to do a properly stripped down bike, there is probably another 20 or 30 kg of stuff that could come off that bike.

jam25mack

Cheap shoes can offer excellent support too.... similar to how cheap watches can tell the time just like expensive ones. Expensive shoes do not have the monopoly on good fit and support.

You seem to need to justify spending the money you do on them. As I said before, if shoes are your thing then rock on.

Your trainer argument is bogus tho. So you're expensive shoes can last 20, 50, 500 years but a pair of scientifically designed trainers should be changed once a year......

Bahtatboy

It's their first main-stream attempt, and I think they've nailed it. The fugly motor/gearbox lump of the 80's R90 and the like absolutely militated against making one into a cafe racer -- but this engine just works in the frame and the overall layout. Agree with you about the potential for slimming it down. I might consider a Street Cup as a first step, but ultimately it'll be the Beemer unless either a) someone brings out something better, or b) I can justify the expense of one of these and nice Herr Axel will make me one:

jam25mack

I have to say that even as a biker, cafe racers do little for me. If I was leaning away from the Sports bike genre I would go the Steve McQueen scrambler or funky bespoke chopper route. There's a Brit guy living in the US who's quite big in the custom bike game and he builds some awesome custom machines. Not the chrome clad Americanesque monstrosities, more contemporary pieces of art.

Bahtatboy

Each to his own. I'd have that JPS-esque Kaffeemaschine in my living room as a piece of art.

DXBtoDOH

Eh. You're trying to justify having cheap shoes yourself. Cheap shoes are cheap for a reason, they're not meant to last for a long time as they're not made out of materials that will provide you with the support to keep your feet happy. Now, if you bought a cheap pair of shoes and wore it only once a month then sure, that can be kept going for a while. But most people don't do that? It defeats the purpose of shoes for them. They need something to wear daily or very regularly.

Same principles with trainers, even the scientifically designed ones. You wear a pair of trainers once or twice a month, you can keep it going. But if you wear it intensively, which is what most people do, it will wear out more quickly and reach the point where it fails to provide the strong support for your soles and feet that is necessary if you don't want to hurt yourself during physical activity. It doesn't matter how scientifically designed it is - a high quality pair of trainers only has a certain life span based on the intensity of use, and the designers know this and will tell you this. Anyone who runs seriously will replace their trainers every few months at a minimum for this reason. Look - people never replace the soles of their trainers with new soles, do they? They just buy new trainers and trainers aren't designed to have soles easily replaced. Unlike high quality shoes such as Church's, which can be kept going for half a century with care and the occasional sole replacement.

Trying to compare it to watches is misleading. A cheap or expensive watch are both meaningless beyond the ability to tell time. We don't even need watches. But we do need shoes, no? And they're important in providing structural and physical support. A good quality pair of shoes goes a long way in spending all day walking, for example. Excellent trekking boots make a huge difference in climbing mountains.

But I won't bore the bored about shoes any more.

martinbkk

I just wear DM's most days

UKCityGent

I own one pairs of trainers which I have never used as I run barefoot in the gym (wearing either skinners or au natural) and for squatting or deadlifts place my heels under a sponge mat.

mission

tell us, i'm curious

weasel decentral

I do like the BMW however I'd like to see them design without the boxer engine or shaft drive or all the other bmw gubbins. Just cut loose similar to the 450cc scrambler and the s1000r

ExpatAl

Exactly. I used to buy a standard pair of Topman shoes in my uni days which would last 6 months tops.

When I graduated and went to my first sales meeting with a client, I bought a pair of Church's to commemorate the occasion. Still wearing them 7 years later...

martinbkk

Hmm, a new crank up 30m Luso tower for my yard with some new Optibeam antennas. A new Elecraft 1500 watt solid state amp to go with my radio and a new Flex 6700 radio would be a start but it's a long list and hadly the sort of thing others would know much about I guess

TheShed

For what it’s worth, I was feeling a bit flush on my last visit to UK so I went to Church’s and bought a new pair of black brogues and a new pair of brown loafers which Mrs Shed chose. I am convinced that these two pairs will give the same great service, attract the same compliments and look as good as the two 20 year old pairs that they shall replace. I think I’ll keep the old boys for gardening duty when I retire as they are so comfortable. Yes, I had the old guys serviced at the factory a couple of times but as people once said.

“The Shoes, the watch, the man”. And

“Quality NEVER goes out of style”.

DXBtoDOH

This is a new must have!

https://stuartandlau.com/products/th...-gym-bag-black

I'm in the market for a new gym bag to carry my gear as I swim each morning and hit the gym after work as well. And look! It has a special compartment for shoes Perfect. A bit expensive.... should I get it?