Education
#1
Education
As an impending parent, I will do all in my power to avoid GEMS. For a start, food is something that helps me survive.
"Sunny Varkey, Chairman of GEMS Education, the world’s largest private school operator which has schools charging fees at both ends of the spectrum, was recently quoted by Forbes Asia as saying: “Education is recession-proof. Parents would forgo their food to send their children to the right school … We adopted the airline model of economy, business and first class to make top-notch education available based on what families could afford.”
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...ikes-1.1320338
"Sunny Varkey, Chairman of GEMS Education, the world’s largest private school operator which has schools charging fees at both ends of the spectrum, was recently quoted by Forbes Asia as saying: “Education is recession-proof. Parents would forgo their food to send their children to the right school … We adopted the airline model of economy, business and first class to make top-notch education available based on what families could afford.”
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...ikes-1.1320338
#2
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Re: Education
He's probably right, and astute. But all I feel is
#3
Re: Education
Nothing wrong with making a few bob, especially if your service or product is top notch.
This is just greed and nastiness though...exploitation of the fact there isn't enough broad competition in the markets they operate in to create value for money in education.
Of course one can always compare the costs of boarding school back home...some are in the same price range as the supposedly good schools in the UAE.
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This is just greed and nastiness though...exploitation of the fact there isn't enough broad competition in the markets they operate in to create value for money in education.
Of course one can always compare the costs of boarding school back home...some are in the same price range as the supposedly good schools in the UAE.
N.
Actually, I think what he said is spot on. He is actually creating a market by offering levels of schools for each budget.
#4
Re: Education
Schools in KSA are applying to up the fees 1,000sar/year. 30 gave so far got it. Wages in my field aren't going up, in fact many places have been going down over the last year in the face of increased cost of living.
Who was it saying when the school fees go up in the Dubai, that's the sign of impending bubble bursting?
Who was it saying when the school fees go up in the Dubai, that's the sign of impending bubble bursting?
#5
Re: Education
Schools in KSA are applying to up the fees 1,000sar/year. 30 gave so far got it. Wages in my field aren't going up, in fact many places have been going down over the last year in the face of increased cost of living.
Who was it saying when the school fees go up in the Dubai, that's the sign of impending bubble bursting?
Who was it saying when the school fees go up in the Dubai, that's the sign of impending bubble bursting?
#6
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Re: Education
Millhouse, think of the money you could save if you became an observant Muslim ! No bills for alcohol ! Or bacon sandwiches !
#7
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Re: Education
Fair play to them. As much as I wish they would put the increases they can charge to my mrs' salary, they have this market by the bollocks and are milking it.
It's just because it's emotive for parents who all think their child is an untouchable, not-for-profit-making angel.
It's just because it's emotive for parents who all think their child is an untouchable, not-for-profit-making angel.
#9
Re: Education
There seems to be no mandatory minimum standard or at least one that is enforced or adhered to in any meaningful way.
But kudos to the owners who have successfully commercialised their operation to the point where their shit lower standards cast the parents as being so unsuccessful in life they cannot afford good schools, rather than the shoddy service provided by the educator.
God I am bored today.
#10
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Re: Education
I would upset to use the airline model if I am paying for first class and getting economy service,or to labour the metaphor even further paying for economy and getting flown by Air-Afghanistan in the cargo hold.
There seems to be no mandatory minimum standard or at least one that is enforced or adhered to in any meaningful way.
But kudos to the owners who have successfully commercialised their operation to the point where their shit lower standards cast the parents as being so unsuccessful in life they cannot afford good schools, rather than the shoddy service provided by the educator.
God I am bored today.
There seems to be no mandatory minimum standard or at least one that is enforced or adhered to in any meaningful way.
But kudos to the owners who have successfully commercialised their operation to the point where their shit lower standards cast the parents as being so unsuccessful in life they cannot afford good schools, rather than the shoddy service provided by the educator.
God I am bored today.
Your metaphors describe nothing but a normal market, if Emirates First Class is the market leader, you'll pay top whack for it. If you fly Olympic and think their First Class is bang average, you'll no doubt not fly again, especially if you feel you've been overcharged. You'll go to Emirates and ask for First Class. But if you can't afford it, maybe you'll have to look at going Business instead?
#11
Re: Education
Fair play to them. As much as I wish they would put the increases they can charge to my mrs' salary, they have this market by the bollocks and are milking it.
It's just because it's emotive for parents who all think their child is an untouchable, not-for-profit-making angel.
It's just because it's emotive for parents who all think their child is an untouchable, not-for-profit-making angel.
Wasn't it Repton a few years ago that had increases capped so added 'catering' fee's to the school charges?
I know of one supposedly good school that closed its art department to make way for more seats.
#12
Re: Education
KHDA do inspections, that's about it, although I think they're pretty good inspections given the effort I know the teachers go into at the mrs' place.
Your metaphors describe nothing but a normal market, if Emirates First Class is the market leader, you'll pay top whack for it. If you fly Olympic and think their First Class is bang average, you'll no doubt not fly again, especially if you feel you've been overcharged. You'll go to Emirates and ask for First Class. But if you can't afford it, maybe you'll have to look at going Business instead?
Your metaphors describe nothing but a normal market, if Emirates First Class is the market leader, you'll pay top whack for it. If you fly Olympic and think their First Class is bang average, you'll no doubt not fly again, especially if you feel you've been overcharged. You'll go to Emirates and ask for First Class. But if you can't afford it, maybe you'll have to look at going Business instead?
It doesn't bother me much but I understand how parents get upset when they believe that profit making is the sole goal of the school.
Quite similar to how they must feel when they buy a house or villa in one of the 'communities' I have built. However I won't impair the long term development of their children with my shoddy work. (unless it falls on them of course )
#13
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Re: Education
It's more to do with the fact that the schools can screw you over...all the parents I know in Dubai do the very best they can for their children, but they are at the mercy of (often very average) schooling and the owners.
Wasn't it Repton a few years ago that had increases capped so added 'catering' fee's to the school charges?
I know of one supposedly good school that closed its art department to make way for more seats.
Wasn't it Repton a few years ago that had increases capped so added 'catering' fee's to the school charges?
I know of one supposedly good school that closed its art department to make way for more seats.
It's not a normal market, it is a very constrained and non competitive market. It seems prices are artificially inflated and regulation is lax.
It doesn't bother me much but I understand how parents get upset when they believe that profit making is the sole goal of the school.
Quite similar to how they must feel when they buy a house or villa in one of the 'communities' I have built. However I won't impair the long term development of their children with my shoddy work. (unless it falls on them of course )
It doesn't bother me much but I understand how parents get upset when they believe that profit making is the sole goal of the school.
Quite similar to how they must feel when they buy a house or villa in one of the 'communities' I have built. However I won't impair the long term development of their children with my shoddy work. (unless it falls on them of course )
I don't really disagree with either of you. There are excellent, average and shit teachers as well as schools.
Choice is 'limited' in Qatar, but in Dubai - there are loads of schools, no?
The schools here are not all profit-making, there are non-profit ones but I've no idea what they charge. The group mentioned and who's leader is quoted are a huge business. They own their supply chain, up and down and are unrelenting in charging parents for the extras wherever possible.
Parents can fight it by not using them, but they have to because they have kids here and want them to get educated...BUT - if it became so expensive and the quality so poor then people would leave.
#14
Re: Education
I wonder if there is scope for a Ryanair truth in advertising style school movement in Dubai.
The brutal honesty approach, that they will get you from A to B and nothing else. That your kids will have the minimum state enforced standard of education, no sports days, no fancy marble receptions and none of the frills.
Marketed in a way that makes people feel stupid to pay a higher price for other schools. Reverse snob factor.
© WD Schooling Services LLC
The brutal honesty approach, that they will get you from A to B and nothing else. That your kids will have the minimum state enforced standard of education, no sports days, no fancy marble receptions and none of the frills.
Marketed in a way that makes people feel stupid to pay a higher price for other schools. Reverse snob factor.
© WD Schooling Services LLC
#15
Re: Education
Window dressing. The lesson that is given on assessment day is nothing like the one given all year round. It's impossible. That's why the teachers put so much effort into that day (vs. any other day)