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Old Jan 17th 2018, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by co durham boy
Some of there work has already been re awarded , seen enquiries today for packages which were AFC .

Didn't take them long
Official email from the big programme is that it's business as usual. Apparently AF family group / business have been told and agreed to / with that things should not change and things should not affect the tight timescales for an international event.
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 2:45 am
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Official email from the big programme is that it's business as usual. Apparently AF family group / business have been told and agreed to / with that things should not change and things should not affect the tight timescales for an international event.
They can't and won't say anything else . The things a catastrophic mess .
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 3:41 am
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Perhaps Qatar not paying was a strategic decision....
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Originally Posted by co durham boy
They can't and won't say anything else . The things a catastrophic mess .
They're on 3-4 of our projects but Expo is the one we're least concerned about.
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They're on 3-4 of our projects but Expo is the one we're least concerned about.
What about that one in DCH ?
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Perhaps Qatar not paying was a strategic decision....
There's quite a few UAE companies had the their pants pulled down in Qatar .
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Originally Posted by co durham boy
What about that one in DCH ?
Not sure to be honest.
The one on the palm couldn't be more of a trouble project if it tried so whether they stay or go I think is now irrelevant.
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Not sure to be honest.
The one on the palm couldn't be more of a trouble project if it tried so whether they stay or go I think is now irrelevant.
Sounds like my kind of project.
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
Sounds like my kind of project.
So you make your fortune off others' misfortunes?
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 6:07 am
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So you make your fortune off others' misfortunes?
Not really. Most investments in MENA across the entire industry are underwater.

I’d love to work in a hedge fund buying distressed stuff though.
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 6:24 am
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
Sounds like my kind of project.
It's nearly finished, in fact, it's being dragged across the line...
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
So you make your fortune off others' misfortunes?
These are not unlucky or unfortunate projects, they are badly conceived, planned, financed and then of course badly executed.

They deserve to be pulled apart by vulture funds or the like.
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 7:04 am
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What is the biggest factor in determining whether a project is successful or not?

In my experience it's interfering clients who keep changing their minds during the design and construction stages. Too common out here.
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
Not really. Most investments in MENA across the entire industry are underwater.

I’d love to work in a hedge fund buying distressed stuff though.



I would have to short your fund (for the interim) but as a side question why would you buy distressed assets in GCC - the lack of transparency and accounting practises alone would put me off
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Old Jan 18th 2018, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
What is the biggest factor in determining whether a project is successful or not?

In my experience it's interfering clients who keep changing their minds during the design and construction stages. Too common out here.
Poor resourcing.
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