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Old Sep 23rd 2007, 7:53 pm   #1
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Old Sep 23rd 2007, 7:59 pm   #2
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Was in Madrid many moons ago, when the bull got the dickhead we all cheered, nearly got lynched... This is not a sport tis cruelty of the most obscene kind. It should be stopped now..
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Definitely should be a banned "sport" if you wanna call it that...!
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Definitely should be a banned "sport" if you wanna call it that...!
they should make it a bit more fair. None of the injuring the bull before it gets to have a go at the Matador.
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i just don't see how anyone would want to go and watch it...hideous sport to amuse hideous people...

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I can see the attraction of it, and understand how it would give you a rush... running the bulls in Pampalona is something i've always wanted to try.

I imagine it's not a terribly morally sound position to take...
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it's fashionable to stand up and be counted against bull fighting...

but when anyone questions the morals of extensive cattle farming (particularly the way it's practised in North and South America) and points out the inefficiencies w.r.t. the energy chain from solar energy -> cattle feed -> cattle -> food on the plate, it's not so fashionable.
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but when anyone questions the morals of extensive cattle farming (particularly the way it's practised in North and South America) and points out the inefficiencies w.r.t. the energy chain from solar energy -> cattle feed -> cattle -> food on the plate, it's not so fashionable.
Spot on - and it can be argued that with an exponentially rising population vegetarianism is a much more energy-efficient way of feeding the masses.

I would miss juicy steaks though. Perhaps if there were herds of wild cows I could butcher the odd one and feed my passions.
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This is not a sport tis cruelty of the most obscene kind. It should be stopped now..

YES

So should dog-fighting, cockfighting ..........
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vegetarianism is a much more energy-efficient way of feeding the masses.
YES

GO Vegans......
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GO Vegans......
Are you vegan, IG? My middle daughter is vegan. So hard to feed, bless her.
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Are you vegan, IG? My middle daughter is vegan. So hard to feed, bless her.
Husband and oldest daughter are strict vegans.

I do have milk in my tea in office, but have cut down substantially on dairy, also substitute Tofu for paneer
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we have the sharp and pointy teeth at the front for a reason! eating meat!
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If you saw the video on PETA and watched how chickens are slaughtered/animals treated - believe me, you would give up meat
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we have the sharp and pointy teeth at the front for a reason! eating meat!
Eating, yes.

Taking over vast swathes of rainforest for beef production which diverts the solar energy to feed Maccy D's, though... I don't think there's an eveolutionary argument for that.
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