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Old Mar 29th 2017, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
You're a youngster, Scamp. Eager, bushy eyed.

I'm 36. I'm old.

I'm a bit more pragmatic, due to life experiences Every single doom and gloom forecast in my entire life has come to....nought. What did not happen were accurate predictions for the collapses that did occur.
You could not have sounded more patronising if you tried. 36 is very young for such a condescending tone.
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You could not have sounded more patronising if you tried. 36 is very young for such a condescending tone.
When I'm 36 I'm going to be such a massive ****.
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Old Mar 29th 2017, 11:04 am
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When I'm 36 I'm going to be such a massive ****.
so you've no plans on changing then
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so you've no plans on changing then
well he did say he was when he first got here a few years back so.....
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so you've no plans on changing then
Even perfect can be improved, so I'll keep trying.
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Old Mar 29th 2017, 12:00 pm
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You could not have sounded more patronising if you tried. 36 is very young for such a condescending tone.
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Old Mar 29th 2017, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Inselaffen
you prefer the Scottish or usual EU style of democracy? Ignore the voters and keep holding referendums until you get the result you want.
I prefer the type where the government is held accountable and that not just shutting up and putting up isnt a bad thing. Where actually questioning what the plan is and what the outcome might be aren't seen as unpatriotic.
The sort where experts aren't ridiculed for you know, being a ****ing expert.
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Originally Posted by shiva
I prefer the type where the government is held accountable and that not just shutting up and putting up isnt a bad thing. Where actually questioning what the plan is and what the outcome might be aren't seen as unpatriotic.
The sort where experts aren't ridiculed for you know, being a ****ing expert.
Don't you know this strictly a Daily Mail echo chamber serving only for the honking Brexit chorus, led by their pontificator in chief, to shrilly reassure each other that this magical mystery tour farrago on which we are about to embark leads only to the kingdom of heaven?

We dare not raise a voice to point out the emptiness of the rhetoric about the UK having freedom to strike trade deals (with whom for what?)
nor draw attention to the contradiction in preventing Scotland from exercising its democratic right to decide if it wishes to remain in a fundamentally changed UK while loudly insisting on the need to observe the outcome of the (legally non-binding) UK referendum on leaving the EU
nor even note the more fundamental contradiction in being pro-union (UK) and anti-union (EU) using opposing arguments in each case
nor expose the fallacy of regaining control of borders that were always in the control of the UK anyway
nor bemoan the ludicrous posturing that "we need them more than they need us" which passes for a Brexit negotiation strategy.

If we do, we risk being swatted aside with devastating wit as "remoaners" and dismissed as the "sort of people" who only get their news from the Maoist BBC. It' not possible that we are expressing these views because we care deeply about the future of the UK; it can only be because we are feckless liberal lefties/sandal-knitting hippies/super PC apologists/shoulder-chip bearing ethnic or gender or sexual minorities whose opinions cant be trusted, regardless of the rigour of our analysis in the face of 43 years of relentless press-baron bulls**t about the EU.

No; this thread, and increasingly this forum, serve only to host the endless tedious bloviation of a few self-satisfied humourless Brexit bores, accepting only one perspective as valid while others are dismissed with personal insults and rancour. Cue six more pages of hysteria...
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Old Mar 29th 2017, 5:16 pm
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I must admit to being a Brexiteer, and voted accordingly, and I was happy to see today's events come to pass. I also voted for Scottish Independence.

My reasoning, look at the plight of the people of Scotland, who's taxes have to fund:

Comminity Councils
Unitary Councils
Scottish Parliament
Westminster Parliament
European Council
European Commission
European Parlimanent
European Court of Justice

How many layers of Goverment do we need? How much is this bloat inhibiting free enterprise? Where is the accountability in all of this?

I read that our total tax burden is near 70% of GDP, and higher than the former USSR, which I believe credible. It's madness and killing free enterprise, in my country of birth. Why do these people think they are better placed to spend my hard earned money than I am?

Bring on IndyRef2. I want accountability in Government, and no more that two layers of it. Total tax take to be reduced commensurately [J]

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11
I must admit to being a Brexiteer, and voted accordingly, and I was happy to see today's events come to pass. I also voted for Scottish Independence.

My reasoning, look at the plight of the people of Scotland, who's taxes have to fund:

Comminity Councils
Unitary Councils
Scottish Parliament
Westminster Parliament
European Council
European Commission
European Parlimanent
European Court of Justice

How many layers of Goverment do we need? How much is this bloat inhibiting free enterprise? Where is the accountability in all of this?

I read that our total tax burden is near 70% of GDP, and higher than the former USSR, which I believe credible. It's madness and killing free enterprise, in my country of birth. Why do these people think they are better placed to spend my hard earned money than I am?

Bring on IndyRef2. I want accountability in Government, and no more that two layers of it. Total tax take to be reduced commensurately [J]
I am Scottish, however the Scottish Government has not passed any legislation in over 12 months. They are the biggest waste of space in all you list.

Ask Scottish teachers you know about declining school standards due to Scottish government meddling, ask Scottish NHS staff about the mess they have to deal with due to Scottish government meddling and ask any one that works in Police Scotland about the disastrous change to one force driven by the Scottish government.

I know lots of Scottish teachers, NHS staff and police. They all tell the same story. The SNP are a joke. The problem is that they hate England more than they care about their own country.

They spend money on populist tactics like free prescriptions etc but do nothing about real job creation to drive the economy.
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Why do these people think they are better placed to spend my hard earned money than I am?
Qualifications?
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Old Mar 30th 2017, 5:43 am
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Qualifications?
hahahahahahahaha.

He is talking about government officials. Not sure any qualifications are needed.
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hahahahahahahaha.

He is talking about government officials. Not sure any qualifications are needed.
Do you see what I did there?

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk
I'm sure they will be happy having to pay their share of the national debt, negotiate military bases, the status of the border, the status of Scots in England, Wales and Northern Ireland and having to wait while their EU membership is approved...or not.

N.
I can't see their EU membership being approved given the whole Spain/Catalan debate...
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