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Old Sep 22nd 2011, 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
I hate to sound critical about what is obviously a horrible situation, but I would make two points. Firstly, $9000 for what coverage? A month? A year? COBRA costs what it cost your employer + 3%. Even with the ludicrous price of insurance in the US this can't be COBRA for a month. Secondly, it's really unfortunate that someone wouldn't let their partner know that they were taking such a huge decision as letting their health coverage lapse. In fact, that's being polite.
It may well be for a month.
Dh got a letter letting him know he could apply for cobra coverage when he had quit his job and had actually started at a new one (but insurance didn't kick in for three months) the cost for him alone was going to be Drum roll please ...... $5,000 a month yes that is thousands, I added him to our family Blue cross for just a few hundred.
It was Kaiser Permanente cover, with $20 per doctor visit and $30 per lab test, not even the great Kaiser coverage we'd had when the children were born. This was 6 years ago, not even recent.
Chances of Englishmum's friend finding insurance that doesn't cost thousands per month and have huge co-pays and deductibles is slim.
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I am still struggling to understand how 'the greatest country in the world' can put up with this utter shambles.
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Originally Posted by Englishmum
.she is currently trying to find an insurance plan in the US but is aware that it's not going to be affordable or even available with a pre-existing condition.
You should tell her to check the government plans. Obama's healthcare law has provisions for people in her situation - a national high-risk insurance pool. US citizens and legal immigrants who have preexisting conditions and have been uninsured for at least six months can enroll in the pool and receive subsidies to help them afford the premiums.

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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
It may well be for a month.
Dh got a letter letting him know he could apply for cobra coverage when he had quit his job and had actually started at a new one (but insurance didn't kick in for three months) the cost for him alone was going to be Drum roll please ...... $5,000 a month yes that is thousands
Wow, I've never heard of that much. We are self-employed, so pay for our own insurance and the cost is $1,400 a month for two of us. COBRA is simply the employee picking up the costs that his or her employer was paying so it's hard for me to fathom $5,000 - the company must have had a true cadillac plan with all the bells and whistles.
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Wow, I've never heard of that much. We are self-employed, so pay for our own insurance and the cost is $1,400 a month for two of us. COBRA is simply the employee picking up the costs that his or her employer was paying so it's hard for me to fathom $5,000 - the company must have had a true cadillac plan with all the bells and whistles.
No Dh didn't have any cadillac plan with bells and whistles we couldn't figure out why it would cost so much either. I thought that would be more like the total that his boss paid out each month, there were only 4 employees and that included the two owners. It was a medical and optical only. No dental.
Now we have a cadillac plan, we are told it costs the company about $20,000 a year for the family. Thats medical, dental and optical
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Cobra coverage for my husband's old company he worked at was almost $2K per month for medical and dental....it's absoloutely insane.
Sorry to hear about your friend
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
No Dh didn't have any cadillac plan with bells and whistles we couldn't figure out why it would cost so much either. I thought that would be more like the total that his boss paid out each month, there were only 4 employees and that included the two owners. It was a medical and optical only. No dental.
I wonder whether this is because it was such a small company? If there are less than 25 (?) employees they don't even have to offer COBRA.

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Now we have a cadillac plan, we are told it costs the company about $20,000 a year for the family. Thats medical, dental and optical
Right, which is about what my employer and myself pay in total per year for pretty amazing family coverage . But that's still "only" $1700 a month which still leaves me puzzling over this $9000 a month.
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Cobra coverage for my husband's old company he worked at was almost $2K per month for medical and dental....it's absoloutely insane.
Sorry to hear about your friend
Hello Moi, was that full coverage?.
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
No Dh didn't have any cadillac plan with bells and whistles we couldn't figure out why it would cost so much either. I thought that would be more like the total that his boss paid out each month, there were only 4 employees and that included the two owners. It was a medical and optical only. No dental.
Now we have a cadillac plan, we are told it costs the company about $20,000 a year for the family. Thats medical, dental and optical
Hello Mummy...
A Cadillac Plan, is that 100% full coverage?
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Hello Moi, was that full coverage?.
Yes - I believe it was for the same coverage as what he had when he worked there. I'm not 100% sure though because we never used it as he resigned from his job and moved on to a different company.
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A Cadillac Plan, is that 100% full coverage?
We have low deductibles, and and pay 20% of bills till the deductible is met (usually only one or two doctor visits) then it's 100% the rest of the year. So long as we are in network. (blue cross) We've never had it so good. Prescriptions are $5 or $10 depending on if it's name brand or generic.
Dental we have to pay a bit more, set amounts for different things. Glasses new pair every two years, exam annually, I just paid $45 total for my share, exam and new glasses.
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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills
We have low deductibles, and and pay 20% of bills till the deductible is met (usually only one or two doctor visits) then it's 100% the rest of the year. So long as we are in network. (blue cross) We've never had it so good. Prescriptions are $5 or $10 depending on if it's name brand or generic.
Dental we have to pay a bit more, set amounts for different things. Glasses new pair every two years, exam annually, I just paid $45 total for my share, exam and new glasses.
Wow Im amazed, Ive never known anyone to have coverage as good as that, the best Ive had was 80% after deductibles. Good for You.
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Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56
Wow Im amazed, Ive never known anyone to have coverage as good as that, the best Ive had was 80% after deductibles. Good for You.
Yes us too, we love the Union But then in a few years when the contract is up it can all change, but we hope not to be here.
We spent the first 20 years with the usual scary kind of insurance.
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
I hate to sound critical about what is obviously a horrible situation, but I would make two points. Firstly, $9000 for what coverage? A month? A year? COBRA costs what it cost your employer + 3%. Even with the ludicrous price of insurance in the US this can't be COBRA for a month. Secondly, it's really unfortunate that someone wouldn't let their partner know that they were taking such a huge decision as letting their health coverage lapse. In fact, that's being polite.
I saw my friend at the weekend and I asked her about the $9k. It turned out that he is in dispute with his former employer (a major international financial organisation) - he wasn't made redundant, he was fired and he has seen an attorney about a compensation claim. From what I can gather, he was initially getting coverage for insurance after leaving his job - but then received a bill to pay for coverage for $9000 around late May or June. He hasn't paid it and the insurance was cancelled...then of course my friend discovered that she had ovarian cancer.

She is cheesed off as she had paid many thousands of $ over the years into her own health insurance plans, but when she met this guy and had a baby with him they all went onto his (better) health insurance scheme and now she's regretting it bitterly. I think it's causing a lot of tension in the relationship.

She isn't currently on chemo or radiation, but is using up the last of her airmiles to fly back to Australia next month for a follow-up visit.

SallySimmons - thanks for the 'heads up' about the 'high-risk' insurance pool. She hasn't been without insurance for six months so far, but has dual natioanlity. I know she wants to get her children insured asap though and is looking up plans on e-insurance etc.
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Today's "New York Times" has a report that US Health Insurance costs are rising sharply:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/bu...s.html?_r=1&hp
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