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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
But not for health care, that is just WRONG!!!
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As it after midnight here, I will wish you all good morning. I am shocked to read of all the horror stories concerning your medical experiences. Over here people moan a lot about various concerns, but medical health comes bottom of the pile. As for your motoring worries, I thought a shift stick was some sort of insect, as we call them manuals. I drive a manual van and an automatic car. The biggest difference I noticed is when you are stationary on
a hill. The automatic will hold itself, but the manual will need you to be pretty
proficent with the clutch. Concerning islands, traffic coming from the right
always has the right of way. Having driven on the "wrong " side of the road abroad, If you keep your concentration it is not to nerve wracking. Am a bit concerned about Rod not giving us an update , could it be he is getting withdrawal symptoms with the lack of that glorious Vegas sunshine? I must admit , I was surprised to see the pictures of the floods in Queensland, as I did not think Oz had that ammount of rain. I have been scouring the spectators at the cricket test matches, but have not noticed Barb watching
the games. But then, she could have been in fancy dress.
Best of luck to all the new posters as well as the golden oldies.
a hill. The automatic will hold itself, but the manual will need you to be pretty
proficent with the clutch. Concerning islands, traffic coming from the right
always has the right of way. Having driven on the "wrong " side of the road abroad, If you keep your concentration it is not to nerve wracking. Am a bit concerned about Rod not giving us an update , could it be he is getting withdrawal symptoms with the lack of that glorious Vegas sunshine? I must admit , I was surprised to see the pictures of the floods in Queensland, as I did not think Oz had that ammount of rain. I have been scouring the spectators at the cricket test matches, but have not noticed Barb watching
the games. But then, she could have been in fancy dress.
Best of luck to all the new posters as well as the golden oldies.
#33
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
As it after midnight here, I will wish you all good morning. I am shocked to read of all the horror stories concerning your medical experiences. Over here people moan a lot about various concerns, but medical health comes bottom of the pile. As for your motoring worries, I thought a shift stick was some sort of insect, as we call them manuals. I drive a manual van and an automatic car. The biggest difference I noticed is when you are stationary on
a hill. The automatic will hold itself, but the manual will need you to be pretty
proficent with the clutch. Concerning islands, traffic coming from the right
always has the right of way. Having driven on the "wrong " side of the road abroad, If you keep your concentration it is not to nerve wracking. Am a bit concerned about Rod not giving us an update , could it be he is getting withdrawal symptoms with the lack of that glorious Vegas sunshine? I must admit , I was surprised to see the pictures of the floods in Queensland, as I did not think Oz had that ammount of rain. I have been scouring the spectators at the cricket test matches, but have not noticed Barb watching
the games. But then, she could have been in fancy dress.
Best of luck to all the new posters as well as the golden oldies.
a hill. The automatic will hold itself, but the manual will need you to be pretty
proficent with the clutch. Concerning islands, traffic coming from the right
always has the right of way. Having driven on the "wrong " side of the road abroad, If you keep your concentration it is not to nerve wracking. Am a bit concerned about Rod not giving us an update , could it be he is getting withdrawal symptoms with the lack of that glorious Vegas sunshine? I must admit , I was surprised to see the pictures of the floods in Queensland, as I did not think Oz had that ammount of rain. I have been scouring the spectators at the cricket test matches, but have not noticed Barb watching
the games. But then, she could have been in fancy dress.
Best of luck to all the new posters as well as the golden oldies.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
HighSpeedGrandma....Sorry about your husbands job. Do you need to come back to the US or could you postpone till later in the year. You might have to pay a charge I know when my Mum came to visit we often changed the dates of her returns.
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
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HighSpeedGrandma....Sorry about your husbands job. Do you need to come back to the US or could you postpone till later in the year. You might have to pay a charge I know when my Mum came to visit we often changed the dates of her returns.
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Linda
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My comment was meant for trottytrue. Idyinlv I have nothing but the upmost sympathy for you and I truly hope that your scan gives you an all clear and that your move back home is a success. I have been living in the US for 10 years and have been wanting to move back to the UK for the last 9. The way the healthcare system is set up here is an absolute and utter disgrace, and nothing or nobody will ever convince me otherwise.
Linda
Linda
Thank you for your concern it is appreciated...
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I am sorry if I misunderstood you Idyinlv did they give a reason why they cancelled your insurance.
I am still saying we have been down the healthcare road on this forum quite a few times and it always ends up the same way. Those who don't like US Healthcare and those who have good US healthcare. It just so happens my husband and all my family have good healthcare. But I know many dont. But this is not the forum to discuss it for one thing it takes it way to much space and people lose sight as to what the forum was set up for and that was help in returning to the UK and helpful hints. I have said before if you want to discuss it and there is plenty to discuss on both sides of this issue in both the US and the UK then open up another link. Those people living in the Uk have paid into healthcare all their lives. well most of them have. Below is how its done.
1.How is health care in the UK financed?
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Health care is almost totally financed out of taxation. 80% of the finance comes from general tax revenues while 15% comes from national insurance contributions.
I am still saying we have been down the healthcare road on this forum quite a few times and it always ends up the same way. Those who don't like US Healthcare and those who have good US healthcare. It just so happens my husband and all my family have good healthcare. But I know many dont. But this is not the forum to discuss it for one thing it takes it way to much space and people lose sight as to what the forum was set up for and that was help in returning to the UK and helpful hints. I have said before if you want to discuss it and there is plenty to discuss on both sides of this issue in both the US and the UK then open up another link. Those people living in the Uk have paid into healthcare all their lives. well most of them have. Below is how its done.
1.How is health care in the UK financed?
Show Answer
Answer
Health care is almost totally financed out of taxation. 80% of the finance comes from general tax revenues while 15% comes from national insurance contributions.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Jackie...Sending good thoughts you way. I'm totally appalled & disgusted at this turn of events.The sooner you're home, the better. Fingers crossed your CAT scan is clear!
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HighSpeedGrandma....Sorry about your husbands job. Do you need to come back to the US or could you postpone till later in the year. You might have to pay a charge I know when my Mum came to visit we often changed the dates of her returns.
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
#43
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
We moved back to the healthcare issue can we move on. I am sorry about ldyinlv, but she did cancel her insurance and someone has to pay for it. You keep saying Healthcare is free in the UK it is far from free my family pay large amounts each week for healthcare stamps. Perhaps those of you back in the UK and working could enlighten us as to how much money you pay for your stamp. I will ask me niece exactly how much money she pays. She and her husband are in the late 30's.
Taxes across the two countries come out slightly lower in the UK for me when you count NI, VAT, property and income tax in the UK and then balance that against FICA, fed tax, state tax, town tax (in my case), sales tax and property taxes here. That leaves my $1,400 of health care costs as money I will quite simply save in the UK.
Even those of you who don't pay for your own health care may still find you save money (although if you're in NH where there's no state tax, that might tip the balance the other way).
Of course then there's the fact that every time you need to see a doctor, it won't cost you a co-pay. Every time you need a procedure, there won't be a deductible. Half the times you need a prescription, you won't be told it's not covered and you'll have to cough up the whole amount yourself ... the list of savings for most of us will be quite long, as they are for ED.
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Why start another thread about American Health Insurance, or lack thereof, when this particular issue would appear to be one of, if not the discerning factor for this demographic when considering whether or not to return to the UK? In any event, people weren't discussing Health Insurance in depth, they were merely commenting on the medical financial issue facing Jackie and empathizing with her current dilemna; an added burden she could well do without.
So true - worries about health care have been the primary driver for my husband to consider a move home. I think it's at the heart of many peoples' decision-making.
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Actually, I've done the calculations on all taxes in the UK and in the US and factored in health care costs, and I'll be quite a bit better off in the UK.
Taxes across the two countries come out slightly lower in the UK for me when you count NI, VAT, property and income tax in the UK and then balance that against FICA, fed tax, state tax, town tax (in my case), sales tax and property taxes here. That leaves my $1,400 of health care costs as money I will quite simply save in the UK.
Even those of you who don't pay for your own health care may still find you save money (although if you're in NH where there's no state tax, that might tip the balance the other way).
Of course then there's the fact that every time you need to see a doctor, it won't cost you a co-pay. Every time you need a procedure, there won't be a deductible. Half the times you need a prescription, you won't be told it's not covered and you'll have to cough up the whole amount yourself ... the list of savings for most of us will be quite long, as they are for ED.
Taxes across the two countries come out slightly lower in the UK for me when you count NI, VAT, property and income tax in the UK and then balance that against FICA, fed tax, state tax, town tax (in my case), sales tax and property taxes here. That leaves my $1,400 of health care costs as money I will quite simply save in the UK.
Even those of you who don't pay for your own health care may still find you save money (although if you're in NH where there's no state tax, that might tip the balance the other way).
Of course then there's the fact that every time you need to see a doctor, it won't cost you a co-pay. Every time you need a procedure, there won't be a deductible. Half the times you need a prescription, you won't be told it's not covered and you'll have to cough up the whole amount yourself ... the list of savings for most of us will be quite long, as they are for ED.
On a similar note, I compared the price of meat over there to the price of meat in the U.S. a few weeks ago. How do people afford to eat meat over there? I don't eat that much meat anyway - but still . . .