knsda

help !!!
after 2 refusals to bring my Venezuelan wife to UK, I have been advised of the surinda singh route !
I am british, national.
I need more info please

HKG3

What are your plans to exercise EEA treaty rights as a British Citizen in Ireland?
Work / Study / Self employment or independent means?

You will find the link below helpful -

Family Members of EU/EEA /Swiss Citizens

BritInParis

Which visa(s) was your wife trying to apply for and on what grounds were they refused?

knsda

we applied for visitors visa, then I engaged solicitor who advised and guided us through process again, for visitor visa. refused both times that she had not satisfied her employment/earnings, and unsure as to whether she would return home.
she speaks little English.
we cannot live in England, and Venezuela is unsuitable for me, Ireland will allow us to be together,work, and eventually move back to UK ?

quiltman

As I understand it, you have to move effectively your whole life, in this case to Ireland, live there and work there for at least 6 months before you can apply to bring your wife to UK. The link given by HKG3 gives you the info. I'm puzzled though. You say you cannot live in England and Venezuela is unsuitable for you, but then say "and eventually move back to the UK"?? So, were you looking to just visit the UK for a short time, or are you looking to move back to live? With more clarity you'll get more relevant answers.

knsda

sorry, I meant to say my government/country will not allow us to be together as husband and wife in England with all the visa issues.
Venezuela is very unstable at the moment, politically and financially.
I would hope to eventually move back to UK with my wife.
does that make sense to you ?

BritInParis

If you want to return to the UK with your wife to live, why were you applying for visitor visas?

knsda

bad advice from solicitor

BritInParis

Have you looked into applying for a spouse visa for your wife? Are you aware of the requirements? Take a look at the Spouse Immigration guide on the wiki.

knsda

we have been through all that, and yes I am aware of the requirements.im really looking for advice on the surinda singh route, as per thread title

SanDiegogirl

You have to move to Ireland and live there for a number of months with jobs and accommodation.

You have to show that you have moved your centre of life to Ireland and not just to "get around UK immigration rules"

Recently, several people have been refused EEA Family permits because the authorities did not believe they had moved to Ireland merely to live and work.

Plan on staying in Ireland for a year to more to fulfill requirements.

morpeth

If I understand rules, if I am in UK and working for 6 months to meet income requirement, then can apply for non-EEA spouse, can spouse ( child is British) be in UK during that period as a student ? We are looking at Ireland as well as it seems easier for residence for spouse straight away.

Wife has some background in medical field, and as a teacher, if she secured employment offer, could she then apply for ILR afterwards ?

If 1 year the guideline for SS route under current rules, how soon would you expect Brexit to cause changes ?

BritInParis

Providing your spouse has a valid student visa during this time then yes. She could then apply for her spouse visa from within the UK rather than returning to her home country.

It would take five years before your wife would be eligible for ILR, either on a spouse or work visa. Any time spent on a student visa wouldn't count towards the five years.

One year residence is a rule of thumb, it could be more or less depending on your circumstances and the opinion of the Entry Clearance Officer handling your case. The SS route is likely to end with the UK's departure from the EU/EEA which in theory will be April 2019 although it may cease beforehand depending on the negotiation process.

morpeth

Thanks.

Does Ireland have a rule like UK of minimum income requirement for residency ?

I wonder what are your thoughts about post-Brexit, how will that effect Brits living in the EU currently ?

BritInParis

Not under EEA freedom of movement rules.

They'll likely be a cut-off point for eligibility for residency but each country will likely apply their own rules. The whole situation is incredibly fluid however since no party has even established a negotiation position yet. Any changes won't affect British citizens in the RoI as this is covered separately by the Common Travel Area.