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Old Aug 21st 2003, 6:40 pm   #1
W Randolph Franklin
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Default Sweet'N Low is different in USA/Canada

Here's an oddity that may be familiar to many people, but was
new to me.

The same trademark name may be licensed to totally different
products in different countries.

E.g., Sweet'N Low in the US has saccharine.

Sweet'N Low in Canada has cyclamate.

I think that this difference in different countries may also
be true of several other artificial sweetners.


(Cyclamate has been banned in the US since 1970. It was
banned because of an invalid study, since refuted,
purporting to show that it caused cancer in mice.)


This, by itself, is a minor point. However, it does
illustrate an odd point in international law.
 
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Old Aug 21st 2003, 7:10 pm   #2
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Not only that. Coca Cola is different in different countries. McDonalds
also use different ingredients and cooking agents in different countries.
What's the deal with that?


"W Randolph Franklin" <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.edu> wrote in message
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    > Here's an oddity that may be familiar to many people, but was
    > new to me.
    > The same trademark name may be licensed to totally different
    > products in different countries.
    > E.g., Sweet'N Low in the US has saccharine.
    > Sweet'N Low in Canada has cyclamate.
    > I think that this difference in different countries may also
    > be true of several other artificial sweetners.
    > (Cyclamate has been banned in the US since 1970. It was
    > banned because of an invalid study, since refuted,
    > purporting to show that it caused cancer in mice.)
    > This, by itself, is a minor point. However, it does
    > illustrate an odd point in international law.
 
Old Aug 21st 2003, 9:00 pm   #3
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In Italy and Switzerland they use these little little tables called Assugrin
Gold. Two of them are more than enough to sweeten an espresso. From
Switzerland there is one called "Hermesetas" it too is a little tablet. It
comes in a blue cylinder. You click the top to dispense the tables into your
coffee/tea. You can buy it in Canada. Look in the diabetic section of the
drug store. I have never seen it in the States.



"W Randolph Franklin" <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.edu> wrote in message
newsu71b.132$7G2.93@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
    > Here's an oddity that may be familiar to many people, but was
    > new to me.
    > The same trademark name may be licensed to totally different
    > products in different countries.
    > E.g., Sweet'N Low in the US has saccharine.
    > Sweet'N Low in Canada has cyclamate.
    > I think that this difference in different countries may also
    > be true of several other artificial sweetners.
    > (Cyclamate has been banned in the US since 1970. It was
    > banned because of an invalid study, since refuted,
    > purporting to show that it caused cancer in mice.)
    > This, by itself, is a minor point. However, it does
    > illustrate an odd point in international law.
 
Old Aug 21st 2003, 9:18 pm   #4
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ntmarzolino@cox.net (Nicola Marzolino) wrote in news:Sx91b.12096$uh6.7367
@lakeread05:

    > From
    > Switzerland there is one called "Hermesetas" it too is a little tablet. It
    > comes in a blue cylinder. You click the top to dispense the tables into your
    > coffee/tea. You can buy it in Canada. Look in the diabetic section of the
    > drug store. I have never seen it in the States.

www.hermesetasusa.com

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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@visi.com
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 12:55 am   #5
Clark W. Griswold
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"Peter L" <peterl68@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >Coca Cola is different in different countries.

IIRC (from a tour of the Coke museum in Atlanta some years back), the syrup
formula is the same for Coke Classic around the world, the only difference is
the use of cane sugar in countries that don't set minimum prices for sugar and
corn syrup for those that do (like the US).

I also seem to recall that new Coke is still sold in certain countries, so I
suppose in that sense there are two formulas...
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 1:49 am   #6
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In rec.travel.usa-canada Bert Hyman <bert@visi.com> wrote:
    > ntmarzolino@cox.net (Nicola Marzolino) wrote in news:Sx91b.12096$uh6.7367
    > @lakeread05:

    > > From
    > > Switzerland there is one called "Hermesetas" it too is a little tablet. It
    > > comes in a blue cylinder. You click the top to dispense the tables into your
    > > coffee/tea. You can buy it in Canada. Look in the diabetic section of the
    > > drug store. I have never seen it in the States.

    > www.hermesetasusa.com

From a page on that site:

"In what form is Hermesetas available?

Hermesetas Gold, which is based on a blend of Aspartame and Acesulfame-K, is
for those who like a 'modern', refined sweetness.

Hermesetas Original, based on Saccharin, is still rated by many as the best
sweetener on the market. "

Nex
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 2:04 am   #7
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Peter L.:
    >> Coca Cola is different in different countries.

Clark Griswold:
    > ... the syrup formula is the same for Coke Classic around the world,
    > the only difference is the use of cane sugar in countries that don't
    > set minimum prices for sugar and corn syrup for those that do ...

It's also reconstituted from the syrup using local water supplies,
so that's another point of variation.

    > I also seem to recall that new Coke is still sold in certain countries,
    > so I suppose in that sense there are two formulas...

In the parts of the US where "new Coke" is still sold, it's now called
"Coke II".
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Old Aug 22nd 2003, 3:11 am   #8
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Thanks Bert!
"Bert Hyman" <bert@visi.com> wrote in message
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    > ntmarzolino@cox.net (Nicola Marzolino) wrote in news:Sx91b.12096$uh6.7367
    > @lakeread05:
    > > From
    > > Switzerland there is one called "Hermesetas" it too is a little tablet.
It
    > > comes in a blue cylinder. You click the top to dispense the tables into
your
    > > coffee/tea. You can buy it in Canada. Look in the diabetic section of
the
    > > drug store. I have never seen it in the States.
    > www.hermesetasusa.com
    > --
    > Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@visi.com
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 3:13 am   #9
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In rec.travel.usa-canada Peter L <peterl68@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Not only that. Coca Cola is different in different countries. McDonalds
    > also use different ingredients and cooking agents in different countries.
    > What's the deal with that?

This is quite common in products that are sold in different areas. For
example, a lot of products that use corn syrup in their United States
version use sugar in versions that are sold elsewhere. This is because
sugar is taxed heavily in the United States, but corn syrup is not.
Products are also sometimes flavored slightly different to accommodate
different tastes.
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 4:57 pm   #10
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Actually the main ingredient is water, and that tastes different everywhere,
unless it's distilled.

"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." wrote:

    > IIRC (from a tour of the Coke museum in Atlanta some years back), the syrup
    > formula is the same for Coke Classic around the world, the only difference is
    > the use of cane sugar in countries that don't set minimum prices for sugar and
    > corn syrup for those that do (like the US).
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 10:55 pm   #11
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:30:18 -0600, "Clark W. Griswold, Jr."
<73115.1041.nospam@compuserve.com> wrote:

    >Mike Berger <berger@shout.net> wrote:
    >>Actually the main ingredient is water, and that tastes different everywhere,
    >>unless it's distilled.
    >Which is why most bottlers use dionized (distilled) water to remove local
    >variations in chemistry, then add a known quantity of minerals back in for
    >consistent flavor.

De-ionized water and distilled water are not the same thing.


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Old Aug 22nd 2003, 11:30 pm   #12
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Mike Berger <berger@shout.net> wrote:

    >Actually the main ingredient is water, and that tastes different everywhere,
    >unless it's distilled.


Which is why most bottlers use dionized (distilled) water to remove local
variations in chemistry, then add a known quantity of minerals back in for
consistent flavor.

Take a closer look at the Dasanni label the next time you are in a store. It's
Coke without the carbonation or syrup...
 
Old Aug 23rd 2003, 1:57 am   #13
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Hatunen <hatuunen@cox.net> wrote:

    >De-ionized water and distilled water are not the same thing.

Typing shortcut... 'twas thinking RO/DI....
 
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