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Old Aug 15th 2006, 1:19 am   #1
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Hi,
I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Old Aug 15th 2006, 2:11 am   #2
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PGPS wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    > wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    > degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    > rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    > appreciated.

Nowhere is 20 C or more in winter on the entire European continent.

A few places will be 10-15C during the day and 5-10C at night -
basically the southern parts of Portugal, Spain, France and Italy.
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 2:20 am   #3
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"Iceman" <oneofcold@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1155607870.348474.271110
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

    > PGPS wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >> wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >> degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    >> rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    >> appreciated.
    >
    > Nowhere is 20 C or more in winter on the entire European continent.
    >
    > A few places will be 10-15C during the day and 5-10C at night -
    > basically the southern parts of Portugal, Spain, France and Italy.
    >
    >

of course if we call Turkey Europe . . .

and, OP, 12 hours from where and why?

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Old Aug 15th 2006, 8:11 am   #4
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"Joseph Coulter" <yourDROPTHISvacation@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns981FE34409479yourvacationcomcastn@216.196. 97.136...
    > "Iceman" <oneofcold@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1155607870.348474.271110
    > @p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
    > > PGPS wrote:
    > >> Hi,
    > >> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    > >> wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    > >> degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    > >> rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    > >> appreciated.
    > >
    > > Nowhere is 20 C or more in winter on the entire European continent.
    > >
    > > A few places will be 10-15C during the day and 5-10C at night -
    > > basically the southern parts of Portugal, Spain, France and Italy.
    > >
    > >
    > of course if we call Turkey Europe . . .
    > and, OP, 12 hours from where and why?
Whether Turkey's in Europe or not, it ain't that warm in winter.
Unless you're including Tenerife etc., the del Sol east of Gib is about the
winter warmest. Beats much of N. Africa.
My ideal warm winter place - Aswan.

Surreyman
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 11:08 am   #5
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On 14 Aug 2006 19:11:10 -0700, "Iceman" <oneofcold@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >PGPS wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >> wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >> degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    >> rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    >> appreciated.
    >Nowhere is 20 C or more in winter on the entire European continent.

I spent a Christmas holiday sailing in the Med. once, when the
temperatures topped 20DegC.

    >A few places will be 10-15C during the day and 5-10C at night -
    >basically the southern parts of Portugal, Spain, France and Italy.
--

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Old Aug 15th 2006, 11:25 am   #6
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:20:17 -0500, Joseph Coulter
<yourDROPTHISvacation@comcast.net> wrote:

    >"Iceman" <oneofcold@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1155607870.348474.271110
    >@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
    >> PGPS wrote:
    >>> Hi,
    >>> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >>> wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >>> degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    >>> rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    >>> appreciated.
    >>
    >> Nowhere is 20 C or more in winter on the entire European continent.
    >>
    >> A few places will be 10-15C during the day and 5-10C at night -
    >> basically the southern parts of Portugal, Spain, France and Italy.
    >>
    >>
    >of course if we call Turkey Europe . . .
my feb visit to istanbul a few years back had 0 C and quite a bit of
snow. I think that is probably the warmest section of european
mainland turkey.
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 11:46 am   #7
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"Martin" <me@privacy.net> skrev i meddelandet
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    > On 14 Aug 2006 19:11:10 -0700, "Iceman" <oneofcold@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>PGPS wrote:
    >>> Hi,
    >>> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >>> wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >>> degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    >>> rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    >>> appreciated.
    >>Nowhere is 20 C or more in winter on the entire European continent.
    > I spent a Christmas holiday sailing in the Med. once, when the
    > temperatures topped 20DegC.
----------
But X-mas rarely occurs in February.
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 12:09 pm   #8
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PGPS wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    > wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    > degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    > rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    > appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
Sevilla Spain
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 12:25 pm   #9
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Warning: This post may contain traces of sarcasm.

PGPS wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    > wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    > degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February.

Well, these four destinations are technically a part of Europe (or, at
leat, the EU): Réunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana. They
might be the warmest parts of "Europe" in February.

    >I wish to use the Euro
    > rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    > appreciated.

This might cause some problems... :-)

SCRN,

Robert
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 1:02 pm   #10
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"Robert Rudolf" <robert.rudolf@gmx.at> skrev i meddelandet
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    > Warning: This post may contain traces of sarcasm.
    > PGPS wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >> wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >> degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February.
    > Well, these four destinations are technically a part of Europe (or, at
    > leat, the EU): Réunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana. They
    > might be the warmest parts of "Europe" in February.
-------------------
Does it mean that non-EU countries aren't in Europe ?
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 1:51 pm   #11
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Lennart Petersen wrote:

    > -------------------
    > Does it mean that non-EU countries aren't in Europe ?

No, the other way 'round: non-European countries aren't (yet, let's wait
for Turkey) in the EU (except the mentioned DOM and probably some other
overseas territories, which are no sovereign Nations).

hth,

Robert
 
Old Aug 15th 2006, 1:56 pm   #12
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http://deminvest.wordpress.com wrote:
    > PGPS wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    > > wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    > > degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February. I wish to use the Euro
    > > rail for a maximum of 12hr ride one way. Any suggestions will be highly
    > > appreciated.
    > >
    > > Thanks.
    > >
    > Sevilla Spain

Other options include Lisbon (possibly the warmest), Barcelona,
Marseille, or Naples.
 
Old Aug 18th 2006, 5:18 pm   #13
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Lennart Petersen wrote:

    > "Robert Rudolf" <robert.rudolf@gmx.at> skrev i meddelandet
    > news:ebsefv$7js$1@etel.at...
    >
    >>Warning: This post may contain traces of sarcasm.
    >>PGPS wrote:
    >>>Hi,
    >>> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >>>wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >>>degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February.
    >>Well, these four destinations are technically a part of Europe (or, at
    >>leat, the EU): Réunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana. They
    >>might be the warmest parts of "Europe" in February.
    >
    > -------------------
    > Does it mean that non-EU countries aren't in Europe ?
    >
    >

As noted there are parts of the EU that are not in Europe. There are
also countries that are in Europe that are not in the EU.
 
Old Aug 18th 2006, 5:25 pm   #14
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:18:12 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<frankfmatthews@houston.rr.com> wrote:

    >Lennart Petersen wrote:
    >> "Robert Rudolf" <robert.rudolf@gmx.at> skrev i meddelandet
    >> news:ebsefv$7js$1@etel.at...
    >>
    >>>Warning: This post may contain traces of sarcasm.
    >>>PGPS wrote:
    >>>>Hi,
    >>>> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >>>>wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >>>>degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February.
    >>>Well, these four destinations are technically a part of Europe (or, at
    >>>leat, the EU): Réunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana. They
    >>>might be the warmest parts of "Europe" in February.
    >>
    >> -------------------
    >> Does it mean that non-EU countries aren't in Europe ?
    >>
    >>
    >As noted there are parts of the EU that are not in Europe. There are
    >also countries that are in Europe that are not in the EU.

Réunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana are "overseas
territories" of France. They are not in Europe. The French control
passports in French Guiana even when you arrive on a flight from
Paris.

--

Martin
 
Old Aug 18th 2006, 6:35 pm   #15
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"Martin" <me@privacy.net> skrev i meddelandet
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    > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:18:12 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
    > <frankfmatthews@houston.rr.com> wrote:
    >>Lennart Petersen wrote:
    >>> "Robert Rudolf" <robert.rudolf@gmx.at> skrev i meddelandet
    >>> news:ebsefv$7js$1@etel.at...
    >>>>Warning: This post may contain traces of sarcasm.
    >>>>PGPS wrote:
    >>>>>Hi,
    >>>>> I intend to travel through europe in February of next year. I was
    >>>>>wondering if you can suggest a good tourist place which is warm (20
    >>>>>degrees centigrade or more) in mid-February.
    >>>>Well, these four destinations are technically a part of Europe (or, at
    >>>>leat, the EU): Réunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana. They
    >>>>might be the warmest parts of "Europe" in February.
    >>> -------------------
    >>> Does it mean that non-EU countries aren't in Europe ?
    >>As noted there are parts of the EU that are not in Europe. There are
    >>also countries that are in Europe that are not in the EU.
    > Réunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana are "overseas
    > territories" of France. They are not in Europe. The French control
    > passports in French Guiana even when you arrive on a flight from
    > Paris.
----------
Those three mentioned are not territories but departments fully integrated
in France.
As working for the mail I'm used to the terms D.O.M and T.O.M
Departments d'Outre Mere and Territories d'Outre Mere.
D.O.M is directed directly to Paris while T.O.M must be send separately.
So the overseas departments are Guadeloupe,Martinique and French Guiana
while the overseas territories are Mayotte,Saint-Pierre and Miquelon.
There're also a number of areas with dependency to France as French
Polynesia,New Caledonia,Wallis Futuna and others .
AFAIK the overseas departments aren't inside the Schengen area thus it's
reasonable that you've to show a passport on entry. I would guess it's
enough with an id for a French citizen. However no-one asked for passport
on my arrival to Guadeloupe from Frankfurt.
 
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