Only Two Weeks Vacation Per Year In The Us???
Oct 27th 2004, 8:10 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Magda <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
> ... Slaves dont get paid at all, stupid.
> If you work as a slave, mercan, don't call *me* stupid.
I'm not even an american, stupid.
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> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
> ... Slaves dont get paid at all, stupid.
> If you work as a slave, mercan, don't call *me* stupid.
I'm not even an american, stupid.
Oct 27th 2004, 8:20 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The Reids writes:
>>> Perhaps rather than thinking about less-for-more, you should
>>> think about different. Find a line of work that you enjoy and
>>> you won't feel compelled to find ways to work fewer hours.
>> There are only so many jobs like that, the majority are doing jobs
>> only because they have to. How many would go to work if they
>> didn't get pay at the end or if they had money from other sources?
> Most people are doing jobs that are at least moderately interesting
> to them, according to studies I've seen (in developed countries).
Separate issue entirely to how many of those would do that work
if they werent paid to do it, if they didnt need the income from that.
> There has been an increasing stratification of society in the U.S.,
Nope, thats a myth.
> reversing a trend towards equilibrium that apparently
> culminated in the 1950s and 1960s. Today most of
> the middle class is regressing to the lower classes,
Another silly myth/lie.
The percentage employed in the professions, doctors,
teachers, engineers, etc etc etc, hasnt dropped.
> while the most wealthy upper classes shrink and become wealthier.
> Unconstrained capitalism and/or greed is probably the cause.
Pity its a myth/lie run by leftys.
The percentage who live in the house they
own or are buying is higher than its ever been.
And the size of the house has increased
substantially too from say the 50s.
>> The US is very rich and very polluting, it
>> needs to consume less stuff and relax a bit.
> I don't see the link between wealth and pollution.
Best get new glasses then. Most obviously with pollution thats
a result of the use of cars and the generation of electricity etc.
> Most developed countries are relatively non-polluting after controlling
> for standard of living. In the future, the real pollution problems will
> come from developing countries (to some extent they already are).
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> The Reids writes:
>>> Perhaps rather than thinking about less-for-more, you should
>>> think about different. Find a line of work that you enjoy and
>>> you won't feel compelled to find ways to work fewer hours.
>> There are only so many jobs like that, the majority are doing jobs
>> only because they have to. How many would go to work if they
>> didn't get pay at the end or if they had money from other sources?
> Most people are doing jobs that are at least moderately interesting
> to them, according to studies I've seen (in developed countries).
Separate issue entirely to how many of those would do that work
if they werent paid to do it, if they didnt need the income from that.
> There has been an increasing stratification of society in the U.S.,
Nope, thats a myth.
> reversing a trend towards equilibrium that apparently
> culminated in the 1950s and 1960s. Today most of
> the middle class is regressing to the lower classes,
Another silly myth/lie.
The percentage employed in the professions, doctors,
teachers, engineers, etc etc etc, hasnt dropped.
> while the most wealthy upper classes shrink and become wealthier.
> Unconstrained capitalism and/or greed is probably the cause.
Pity its a myth/lie run by leftys.
The percentage who live in the house they
own or are buying is higher than its ever been.
And the size of the house has increased
substantially too from say the 50s.
>> The US is very rich and very polluting, it
>> needs to consume less stuff and relax a bit.
> I don't see the link between wealth and pollution.
Best get new glasses then. Most obviously with pollution thats
a result of the use of cars and the generation of electricity etc.
> Most developed countries are relatively non-polluting after controlling
> for standard of living. In the future, the real pollution problems will
> come from developing countries (to some extent they already are).
Oct 27th 2004, 8:26 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
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> Richard <[email protected]> wrote
>> Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>> I detest work. It bores and stresses me, and I am constantly
>>> looking at ways to do less of it for more money.
>> Perhaps rather than thinking about less-for-more, you should think about
>> different. Find a line of work that you enjoy and you won't feel compelled
>> to find ways to work fewer hours. Not that I'm advocating the work schedule
>> you describe further down in your message, far from it, between 35 and 40
>> hours a week is about as much as anyone should have to work IMHO but the
>> hours you do work will pass by a lot less painfully if you enjoy whatever it
>> is you spend them doing.
> Work is by definition an unpleasant thing you do for money.
Wrong on the unpleasant for many of us.
> Otherwise you would not need to be paid to do it.
Gets sillier by the minute. Most need to be paid so they have that
to spend on their needs like shelter and food and entertainment etc.
> Sure some jobs are better than others, but I believe
> that the more you get paid, the easier your job is,
Thats even sillier. Some of the better paying jobs
are in selling, and that isnt necessarily an easy job.
> and the more respect you receive,
Even sillier.
> thus making for more enjoyable work.
And sillier again.
> What you say is of course quite obvious. I guess my attitude
> has been that I would rather work hard for 9 or 10 months
> of the year, and travel (my main and most expensive hobby)
> the rest of the time. It doesn't bother me to work hard during
> that time, as long as money is coming in.
And others get well paid to do what they would do for free if
they didnt need the income to pay for what they need to pay for.
>>> This is an attitude that was viewed as blasphemy last time (early
>>> 2001) I was in the US. In the company I was working at, it was
>>> expected that everyone arrived an hour before they started getting
>>> paid, and stopped two hours after they stopped getting paid. A
>>> large number of them worked at least one day on the weekend too.
>> Surely there are laws against forcing people to do this?
> They were not being forced as such, it was just expected, and if you
> wanted your bonus, or a chance to work your way up in the company,
> your chances were greatly reduced by not putting in that extra 'little' bit.
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> Richard <[email protected]> wrote
>> Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>> I detest work. It bores and stresses me, and I am constantly
>>> looking at ways to do less of it for more money.
>> Perhaps rather than thinking about less-for-more, you should think about
>> different. Find a line of work that you enjoy and you won't feel compelled
>> to find ways to work fewer hours. Not that I'm advocating the work schedule
>> you describe further down in your message, far from it, between 35 and 40
>> hours a week is about as much as anyone should have to work IMHO but the
>> hours you do work will pass by a lot less painfully if you enjoy whatever it
>> is you spend them doing.
> Work is by definition an unpleasant thing you do for money.
Wrong on the unpleasant for many of us.
> Otherwise you would not need to be paid to do it.
Gets sillier by the minute. Most need to be paid so they have that
to spend on their needs like shelter and food and entertainment etc.
> Sure some jobs are better than others, but I believe
> that the more you get paid, the easier your job is,
Thats even sillier. Some of the better paying jobs
are in selling, and that isnt necessarily an easy job.
> and the more respect you receive,
Even sillier.
> thus making for more enjoyable work.
And sillier again.
> What you say is of course quite obvious. I guess my attitude
> has been that I would rather work hard for 9 or 10 months
> of the year, and travel (my main and most expensive hobby)
> the rest of the time. It doesn't bother me to work hard during
> that time, as long as money is coming in.
And others get well paid to do what they would do for free if
they didnt need the income to pay for what they need to pay for.
>>> This is an attitude that was viewed as blasphemy last time (early
>>> 2001) I was in the US. In the company I was working at, it was
>>> expected that everyone arrived an hour before they started getting
>>> paid, and stopped two hours after they stopped getting paid. A
>>> large number of them worked at least one day on the weekend too.
>> Surely there are laws against forcing people to do this?
> They were not being forced as such, it was just expected, and if you
> wanted your bonus, or a chance to work your way up in the company,
> your chances were greatly reduced by not putting in that extra 'little' bit.
Oct 27th 2004, 8:38 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Lucky in some ways, unlucky in others. Europeans still think they've
>accomplished great things if they can buy a color TV after saving up for
>ten years.
I don't know where you got that idea from. In Western Europe you can
buy a colour TV with the income from a few days work. I don't know
anybody who wants a colour TV, who hasn't got one. We have three in
our house.
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wrote:
>Lucky in some ways, unlucky in others. Europeans still think they've
>accomplished great things if they can buy a color TV after saving up for
>ten years.
I don't know where you got that idea from. In Western Europe you can
buy a colour TV with the income from a few days work. I don't know
anybody who wants a colour TV, who hasn't got one. We have three in
our house.
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Oct 27th 2004, 8:39 pm
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> D. Lloyd writes:
>> In order to do that, citizens must believe that
>> it is possible to grab a piece of the American dream no matter how small
>> that piece may be.
> It's easier in the U.S. than almost anywhere else. However, it was a
> lot easier in the 50s and 60s. Currently the pendulum has swung back to
> where it was around 1900, with a very small number of very rich people,
> a very large number of near-poverty-level people,
That 'near poverty level' is pretty luxurious tho.
> and a nearly nonexistent middle class.
Mindless drivel. The number who own or are buying their own homes
is nothing even remotely resembling anything like 'nearly nonexistent'
>> People in Europe are very lucky.
> Lucky in some ways, unlucky in others. Europeans still think they've
> accomplished great things if they can buy a color TV after saving up for
> ten years.
More pig ignorant drivel.
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> D. Lloyd writes:
>> In order to do that, citizens must believe that
>> it is possible to grab a piece of the American dream no matter how small
>> that piece may be.
> It's easier in the U.S. than almost anywhere else. However, it was a
> lot easier in the 50s and 60s. Currently the pendulum has swung back to
> where it was around 1900, with a very small number of very rich people,
> a very large number of near-poverty-level people,
That 'near poverty level' is pretty luxurious tho.
> and a nearly nonexistent middle class.
Mindless drivel. The number who own or are buying their own homes
is nothing even remotely resembling anything like 'nearly nonexistent'
>> People in Europe are very lucky.
> Lucky in some ways, unlucky in others. Europeans still think they've
> accomplished great things if they can buy a color TV after saving up for
> ten years.
More pig ignorant drivel.
Oct 27th 2004, 8:41 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:42:34 GMT, Jane Sitton
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Richard writes:
>>
>>
>>>Surely there are laws against forcing people to do this?
>>
>>
>> There are some laws, but they aren't necessarily enforced or observed.
>It depends upon whether one is salaried or hourly. There are stricter
>laws for hourly work, but some changes went into effect this past August
>making it easier to screw people out of overtime. An example is calling
>someone a manager when he spends most of his time waiting tables or
>ringing up sales. Here's a link for the website explaining the changes:
>http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/
"The mission of ESA is to enhance the welfare and protect the rights
of American workers. As an enforcement and benefit delivery Agency,
ESA is composed of four major programs: ... "
and there was me thinking that the European Space Agency was for the
utilisation and exploration of space.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Richard writes:
>>
>>
>>>Surely there are laws against forcing people to do this?
>>
>>
>> There are some laws, but they aren't necessarily enforced or observed.
>It depends upon whether one is salaried or hourly. There are stricter
>laws for hourly work, but some changes went into effect this past August
>making it easier to screw people out of overtime. An example is calling
>someone a manager when he spends most of his time waiting tables or
>ringing up sales. Here's a link for the website explaining the changes:
>http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/
"The mission of ESA is to enhance the welfare and protect the rights
of American workers. As an enforcement and benefit delivery Agency,
ESA is composed of four major programs: ... "
and there was me thinking that the European Space Agency was for the
utilisation and exploration of space.
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Oct 27th 2004, 8:43 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:58:11 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Icono Clast writes:
>> I have heard that there are still people in the USA who work 40-hour
>> weeks for 2-week vacations but I don't know any. Does anyone?
>All of my U.S. jobs were like this.
I thought all were.
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wrote:
>Icono Clast writes:
>> I have heard that there are still people in the USA who work 40-hour
>> weeks for 2-week vacations but I don't know any. Does anyone?
>All of my U.S. jobs were like this.
I thought all were.
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Oct 27th 2004, 8:51 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ted Ng <ted_ng@[nospam].com> writes
>> It sucks, but I see in the news that business conditions are now
>> forcing Europe to cut back on the extensive social welfare system.
> It will never regress to the American extreme.
We'll see, particularly now with countrys like
Turkey and Poland becoming part of the EU etc.
>> The wrenching changes the US has gone through over the
>> past decade, western Europe will also have to experience.
> Nobody imposed those changes on the U.S.;
Economic circumstances did, actually. Particularly with the manufacturing
industrys that couldnt hope to compete with places like China etc.
> it made most of the changes itself in search of ever-higher corporate profits.
Mindlessly superficial silly stuff, just like your completely silly claim
that the middle class is virtually non existent in the US now.
>> Is it fair for American and European workers to compete
>> against workers in other countries who make 1/10 the
>> salary and have no benefits or workplace safety regulations?
> It depends on whom you you ask.
And the consumers basically buy those products.
>> All I know is whenever I go into the store, I struggle to find anything that
>> isn't manufactured in China, stuff that we used to make. It makes me sad.
Welcome to the real world.
> It makes shareholders glad.
And the consumers too.
> They don't care about anyone else or about the
> future of the economy; they just want it all now.
More mindlessly superficial silly stuff.
The US is STILL where virtually every technology is fully commercialised
first, everything from the car to heavy aircraft and radio, TV, movies, etc
initially, right thru to fast food, consumer credit, the PC and consumer
software thru to the internet etc in more recent times.
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> Ted Ng <ted_ng@[nospam].com> writes
>> It sucks, but I see in the news that business conditions are now
>> forcing Europe to cut back on the extensive social welfare system.
> It will never regress to the American extreme.
We'll see, particularly now with countrys like
Turkey and Poland becoming part of the EU etc.
>> The wrenching changes the US has gone through over the
>> past decade, western Europe will also have to experience.
> Nobody imposed those changes on the U.S.;
Economic circumstances did, actually. Particularly with the manufacturing
industrys that couldnt hope to compete with places like China etc.
> it made most of the changes itself in search of ever-higher corporate profits.
Mindlessly superficial silly stuff, just like your completely silly claim
that the middle class is virtually non existent in the US now.
>> Is it fair for American and European workers to compete
>> against workers in other countries who make 1/10 the
>> salary and have no benefits or workplace safety regulations?
> It depends on whom you you ask.
And the consumers basically buy those products.
>> All I know is whenever I go into the store, I struggle to find anything that
>> isn't manufactured in China, stuff that we used to make. It makes me sad.
Welcome to the real world.
> It makes shareholders glad.
And the consumers too.
> They don't care about anyone else or about the
> future of the economy; they just want it all now.
More mindlessly superficial silly stuff.
The US is STILL where virtually every technology is fully commercialised
first, everything from the car to heavy aircraft and radio, TV, movies, etc
initially, right thru to fast food, consumer credit, the PC and consumer
software thru to the internet etc in more recent times.
Oct 27th 2004, 8:52 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>D. Lloyd writes:
>> People in Europe are very lucky.
>Lucky in some ways, unlucky in others. Europeans still think they've
>accomplished great things if they can buy a color TV after saving up for
>ten years.
I donm't know about the rest of Europe but here in the UK a 28"
widescreen TV costs the equivalent of a week's wage.
wrote:
>D. Lloyd writes:
>> People in Europe are very lucky.
>Lucky in some ways, unlucky in others. Europeans still think they've
>accomplished great things if they can buy a color TV after saving up for
>ten years.
I donm't know about the rest of Europe but here in the UK a 28"
widescreen TV costs the equivalent of a week's wage.
Oct 27th 2004, 8:52 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:11:31 -0700, yes <[email protected]> wrote:
>> the best performing western economy for 5 years.
>How is Australia considered a western economy?
Japan is also a western economy...
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>> the best performing western economy for 5 years.
>How is Australia considered a western economy?
Japan is also a western economy...
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Oct 27th 2004, 8:54 pm
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Richard Cline writes:
>> It is interesting that many of the best and brightest people immigrate
>> to the US for their career betterment.
> They used to. They don't necessarily do that anymore.
Wrong.
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> Richard Cline writes:
>> It is interesting that many of the best and brightest people immigrate
>> to the US for their career betterment.
> They used to. They don't necessarily do that anymore.
Wrong.
Oct 27th 2004, 9:00 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Cindy hamilton writes:
>> There's nothing stopping me from taking my vacation days,
>> except I don't want to. I have plenty of time to do everything
>> I want. I don't have any children, so my time is pretty much my own.
> Let's hope you continue to see it this way when
> you look back on your life a few decades from now.
Quite a few who like what they are being
paid to do dont change their view on that stuff.
> Cardiologists will tell you that no heart patient ever
> says "I wish I had spent more time at the office."
Irrelevant, most of us dont end up needing a cardiologist
and many who do do so because they smoke etc.
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> Cindy hamilton writes:
>> There's nothing stopping me from taking my vacation days,
>> except I don't want to. I have plenty of time to do everything
>> I want. I don't have any children, so my time is pretty much my own.
> Let's hope you continue to see it this way when
> you look back on your life a few decades from now.
Quite a few who like what they are being
paid to do dont change their view on that stuff.
> Cardiologists will tell you that no heart patient ever
> says "I wish I had spent more time at the office."
Irrelevant, most of us dont end up needing a cardiologist
and many who do do so because they smoke etc.
Oct 27th 2004, 9:08 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:05:48 +0100, Jonathan <[email protected]>
wrote:
>When an American friend told me people in the US only have two weeks
>of paid leave PER YEAR I could scarcely believe it. He said yeah but
>we get paid public holidays.
>In the UK we get 4 to 5 weeks paid leave plus public holidays . Other
>countries like France get 5 to 6 weeks plus public holidays. Plus
>they only work 35 hours per week yet they are one of the most
>productive countries in the world.
>If this is true about the US, how can the average American live under
>such a system and not lose their mind???
>Life can't all be about work. It seems such a system would breed
>highly neurotic and hysterical people. I wouldn't want to live like
>that no matter how much they paid me.
The "average American" as you put it, has figured out a clever way
around this rather unfortunante and startling fact.
You see, even though they are physically present at their place of
work for 8 hours (or possibly more), they are only actually WORKING
about 3 of those hours. The rest of the time they are taking coffee
breaks, eating lunch, gabbing with their co-workers about the "game"
last night or their childrens' birthday parties, etc. They are
passing around pictures of their grandchildren, making personal
telephone calls, snacking on peanuts or other junk food.
About once an hour they "might" check their voicemail and "maybe"
return a phone call relating to business, but usually not. If they
are retail clerks, they stare blankly into space refusing to actually
wait on customers and answer ANY question with the ubiquous "I don't
know" or sometimes and intelligible grunt. If they are waitresses,
they will bring you your food but never come back to see if everything
is ok.
If they are hotel maids, they are slapping the sheets on the bed in
such a way that the registered guests have to remake the entire bed
themselves, but that gives them more time to take that "smoke break"
or read the "national enquirer" that they found in the garbage in the
last room they did.
You get the idea.
Em
Be careful what you wish for....
wrote:
>When an American friend told me people in the US only have two weeks
>of paid leave PER YEAR I could scarcely believe it. He said yeah but
>we get paid public holidays.
>In the UK we get 4 to 5 weeks paid leave plus public holidays . Other
>countries like France get 5 to 6 weeks plus public holidays. Plus
>they only work 35 hours per week yet they are one of the most
>productive countries in the world.
>If this is true about the US, how can the average American live under
>such a system and not lose their mind???
>Life can't all be about work. It seems such a system would breed
>highly neurotic and hysterical people. I wouldn't want to live like
>that no matter how much they paid me.
The "average American" as you put it, has figured out a clever way
around this rather unfortunante and startling fact.
You see, even though they are physically present at their place of
work for 8 hours (or possibly more), they are only actually WORKING
about 3 of those hours. The rest of the time they are taking coffee
breaks, eating lunch, gabbing with their co-workers about the "game"
last night or their childrens' birthday parties, etc. They are
passing around pictures of their grandchildren, making personal
telephone calls, snacking on peanuts or other junk food.
About once an hour they "might" check their voicemail and "maybe"
return a phone call relating to business, but usually not. If they
are retail clerks, they stare blankly into space refusing to actually
wait on customers and answer ANY question with the ubiquous "I don't
know" or sometimes and intelligible grunt. If they are waitresses,
they will bring you your food but never come back to see if everything
is ok.
If they are hotel maids, they are slapping the sheets on the bed in
such a way that the registered guests have to remake the entire bed
themselves, but that gives them more time to take that "smoke break"
or read the "national enquirer" that they found in the garbage in the
last room they did.
You get the idea.
Em
Be careful what you wish for....
Oct 27th 2004, 9:12 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:34:07 GMT, "js" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In the UK we get 4 to 5 weeks paid leave plus public holidays . Other
>> countries like France get 5 to 6 weeks plus public holidays. Plus
>> they only work 35 hours per week yet they are one of the most
>> productive countries in the world.
>> If this is true about the US, how can the average American live under
>> such a system and not lose their mind???
>Why do you think the murder rate is so high over here? :-D
Um, well, considering that 85 percent of the murders committed in the
United States are minority groups (usually unemployed minority
groups), killing other members of minority groups (there, was that
politically correct enough for you????), I would say that there isn't
much correlation between vacation days and murder.
Em,
Be careful what you wish for....
>> In the UK we get 4 to 5 weeks paid leave plus public holidays . Other
>> countries like France get 5 to 6 weeks plus public holidays. Plus
>> they only work 35 hours per week yet they are one of the most
>> productive countries in the world.
>> If this is true about the US, how can the average American live under
>> such a system and not lose their mind???
>Why do you think the murder rate is so high over here? :-D
Um, well, considering that 85 percent of the murders committed in the
United States are minority groups (usually unemployed minority
groups), killing other members of minority groups (there, was that
politically correct enough for you????), I would say that there isn't
much correlation between vacation days and murder.
Em,
Be careful what you wish for....
Oct 27th 2004, 9:12 pm
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:43:30 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:58:11 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Icono Clast writes:
>>> I have heard that there are still people in the USA who work 40-hour
>>> weeks for 2-week vacations but I don't know any. Does anyone?
>>All of my U.S. jobs were like this.
>I thought all were.
Public servants, teachers and other academics get longer vacations.
In many companies you must work there 10 years to get 3 weeks.
>On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:58:11 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Icono Clast writes:
>>> I have heard that there are still people in the USA who work 40-hour
>>> weeks for 2-week vacations but I don't know any. Does anyone?
>>All of my U.S. jobs were like this.
>I thought all were.
Public servants, teachers and other academics get longer vacations.
In many companies you must work there 10 years to get 3 weeks.
