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Only Two Weeks Vacation Per Year In The Us???

Only Two Weeks Vacation Per Year In The Us???

Old Oct 28th 2004, 8:54 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 05:50:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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    >Rod Speed writes:
    >> That 'near poverty level' is pretty luxurious tho.
    >Not compared to the wealthy or the former middle class.
    >> Mindless drivel. The number who own or are buying their own homes
    >> is nothing even remotely resembling anything like 'nearly nonexistent'
    >There's much more to the former middle-class standard of living than
    >having a home.

In England they have frighteningly large overdrafts too.

The bubble is about to burst.
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Old Oct 28th 2004, 8:55 am
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<[email protected]> wrote:
    > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> [email protected] writes:
    >>> I don't know where you got that idea from. In Western Europe you can
    >>> buy a colour TV with the income from a few days work.
    >> In France, it would take me almost a month's pay to buy a color TV, and
    >> that's only if I had nothing else to pay for.
    > That says more about your income than anything else. Are you saying
    > that your monthly income is less than Euro 200?

He's got that 800 euro watch to fall back on.

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Old Oct 28th 2004, 8:56 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:57:53 +1000, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> Rod Speed writes:
    >>> That 'near poverty level' is pretty luxurious tho.
    >> Not compared to the wealthy or the former middle class.
    >Another lie. And there is nothing 'former' about the middle class.

The middle class used to have real wealth not just a sodding great
overdraft.


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Old Oct 28th 2004, 8:57 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 05:51:29 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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    >[email protected] writes:
    >> I thought all were.
    >In France you work 35-hour weeks, and you get typically 6 weeks of
    >vacation per year ... by law.

plus public holidays.
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Old Oct 28th 2004, 9:01 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:26:53 GMT, Bob Ward <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >But, on the other hand, you've got Rod Speed - so our quality of life
    >is still higher.

We would be willing to make a great sacrifice and give him to you if
that would help level things off a bit :-)

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Old Oct 28th 2004, 9:16 am
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"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > D. Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]...
    >> Canadians (of which I am one) also suffer under a system which requires
    >> them to work far more than is healthy.
    > Not a shred of evidence of any health benefit
    > of more than 2 weeks vacation per year.

I guess that depends on what your definition of "healthy" is.

    > In fact Japan which is rather notorious for salarymen choosing to not
    > use all the vacation time they are entitled to do rather better on the
    > basic health stats than almost any other modern first world country.

Karoshi anyone? Visit:
http://cms.psychologytoday.com/artic...01-000003.html

D. Lloyd
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 9:18 am
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Gregory Toomey wrote:

    > Jonathan wrote:
    >
    >> When an American friend told me people in the US only have two weeks
    >> of paid leave PER YEAR I could scarcely believe it. He said yeah but
    >> we get paid public holidays.
    >>
    >> In the UK we get 4 to 5 weeks paid leave plus public holidays . Other
    >> countries like France get 5 to 6 weeks plus public holidays. Plus
    >> they only work 35 hours per week yet they are one of the most
    >> productive countries in the world.
    >>
    >> If this is true about the US, how can the average American live under
    >> such a system and not lose their mind???
    >>
    >> Life can't all be about work. It seems such a system would breed
    >> highly neurotic and hysterical people. I wouldn't want to live like
    >> that no matter how much they paid me.
    >
    > By way of comparison, the average in Australia is 4-5 weeks vacation.
    > Plus Australia has free healthcare, funded pensions, a growing budget
    > surplus, & has been the best performing western economy for 5 years.
    > Ooh, and the best beaches.
    >
    > gtoomey


And the best chicks :)
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 9:32 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 03:52:48 -0500, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
wrote:

    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> And the size of the house has increased substantially too from say the
    >>>> 50s.
    >>> So has the price ... much more than the size.
    >> My impression is that new houses are smaller than old houses, and old
    >> houses haven't changed size.
    >In the USA? New houses have become gigantic, freakishly so. I think it's
    >because everyone is afraid to go outside anymore, so they need to enclose
    >enough space to live out their lives in. Ditto with the freaskishly large
    >vehicles.

In parts of Europe they are running out of building land, this
constrains the size of houses.
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Old Oct 28th 2004, 9:32 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 03:55:28 -0500, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
wrote:

    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> [email protected] writes:
    >>>> I don't know where you got that idea from. In Western Europe you can
    >>>> buy a colour TV with the income from a few days work.
    >>> In France, it would take me almost a month's pay to buy a color TV, and
    >>> that's only if I had nothing else to pay for.
    >> That says more about your income than anything else. Are you saying
    >> that your monthly income is less than Euro 200?
    >He's got that 800 euro watch to fall back on.

In his back pocket? :-)
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Old Oct 28th 2004, 10:14 am
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Rod Speed [email protected] wrote

    >>> it's actually very common for people with less than 2-5 years at a company
    >>> to only get 1 week's vacation, and that isn't necessarily paid vacation.

    >> Small subset of 'people in the US'

    > Is it a small subset?

Yep.

    > Ive been given the impression US workforce is very mobile
    > and change jobs and location much more than Europeans?

Irrelevant when most get 2 weeks in that 2-5 years.
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 10:18 am
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D. Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >> D. Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote

    >>> Canadians (of which I am one) also suffer under a system which requires them
    >>> to work far more than is healthy.

    >> Not a shred of evidence of any health benefit
    >> of more than 2 weeks vacation per year.

    > I guess that depends on what your definition of "healthy" is.

Nope, any sensible measure of 'healthy'
produces the same result on that.

    >> In fact Japan which is rather notorious for salarymen choosing to not
    >> use all the vacation time they are entitled to do rather better on the
    >> basic health stats than almost any other modern first world country.

    > Karoshi anyone? Visit:
    > http://cms.psychologytoday.com/artic...01-000003.html

And the Jap health stats are significantly better than the US.
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 10:38 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:18:11 +1000, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >D. Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote in
    >message news:[email protected]...
    >> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> D. Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> Canadians (of which I am one) also suffer under a system which requires them
    >>>> to work far more than is healthy.
    >>> Not a shred of evidence of any health benefit
    >>> of more than 2 weeks vacation per year.
    >> I guess that depends on what your definition of "healthy" is.
    >Nope, any sensible measure of 'healthy'
    >produces the same result on that.
    >>> In fact Japan which is rather notorious for salarymen choosing to not
    >>> use all the vacation time they are entitled to do rather better on the
    >>> basic health stats than almost any other modern first world country.
    >> Karoshi anyone? Visit:
    >> http://cms.psychologytoday.com/artic...01-000003.html
    >And the Jap health stats are significantly better than the US.

which are better than UK ...

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Old Oct 28th 2004, 10:57 am
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:16:11 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:


    >I detest work. It bores and stresses me, and I am constantly looking
    >at ways to do less of it for more money. This is an attitude that was
    >viewed as blasphemy last time (early 2001) I was in the US. In the
    >company I was working at, it was expected that everyone arrived an
    >hour before they started getting paid, and stopped two hours after
    >they stopped getting paid. A large number of them worked at least one
    >day on the weekend too.
    >I suggested one day that we should all work our ass's of until 5:30
    >(after which we would not be being paid) and then go relax in a bar
    >over a couple of drinks, and casually discuss project strategy and
    >whatever other shit we could think of, and they looked at me like I
    >had antennae coming out of my head!
    >The real crunch came when I refused a green card offer. They really
    >seemed hurt by this.
    >---
    >DFM


LOL. Fastest way to completely dumfound an American when they ask how
you like the US is to say: "nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to
live here". Usually they genuinely can not even comprehend that
statement.
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Old Oct 28th 2004, 11:13 am
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zach wrote:

    >
    >
    > So are you proud to admit to being lazy in front of thousands of
    > people? Interesting...

Let's see if I have this correct:

Idle rich = good

Idle poor = bad

Does that cover it?

-- Ron
 
Old Oct 28th 2004, 11:18 am
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:57:31 +0200, AJC <[email protected]> wrote:


    >>The real crunch came when I refused a green card offer. They really
    >>seemed hurt by this.
    >>---
    >>DFM
    >LOL. Fastest way to completely dumfound an American when they ask how
    >you like the US is to say: "nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to
    >live here". Usually they genuinely can not even comprehend that
    >statement.
    >--==++AJC++==--

but you get a similar response at Schiphol.

Koninklijk Marechausse squinting at passport: How long are you
planning to stay in the Netherlands?
Passport holder: As little time as possible.
<pregnant silence>
KM: then enjoy your holiday sir
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Martin
 

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