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nachotexas Jul 4th 2012 9:23 am

visa waiver
 
Hello.
In 2001 i enter us with a argentinian passport and a visa waiver. They gibe me 90 days permission to stay, BUT i stayed for longer and then leave. I never applied for a visa, green card.
Now, i have a spaniard passport. Can i go to US with a visa waiver program? or my be a problem? may i need to apply for a visa? Any suggestions or examples? thank you

*I enter by airplane true Atlanta airport and leave by airplane true Dallas/Fort Worth airport.

materialcontroller Jul 4th 2012 9:25 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10155000)
Hello.
In 2001 i enter us with a argentinian passport and a visa waiver. They gibe me 90 days permission to stay, BUT i stayed for longer and then leave. I never applied for a visa, green card.
Now, i have a spaniard passport. Can i go to US with a visa waiver program? or my be a problem? may i need to applied for a visa? Any suggestions or examples? thank you

You can't use the VWP ever again, and will therefore need to apply for a visa.

ian-mstm Jul 4th 2012 9:40 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10155000)
Can i go to US with a visa waiver program?

No. You can never use the VWP again... ever.



... may i need to applied for a visa?
You must apply for a visa.

Ian

nachotexas Jul 4th 2012 9:52 am

Re: visa waiver
 
Thank you for the reply.

Just to be clear:
Having two different passports do not matter, for US immigration you are the same person, your name will ring the system

materialcontroller Jul 4th 2012 9:54 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10155039)
Thank you for the reply.

Just to be clear:
Having two different passports do not matter, for US immigration you are the same person, your name will ring the system

Yes that is correct.

kimilseung Jul 4th 2012 9:56 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10155039)
Thank you for the reply.

Just to be clear:
Having two different passports do not matter, for US immigration you are the same person, your name will ring the system

Most advice here will be what is the legal way, according to the rules, not what you can get away with.

md95065 Jul 4th 2012 9:58 am

Re: visa waiver
 
One of the (many) requirements in order to be eligible to use the Visa Waiver Program is to "have complied with all conditions of any previous admission under the Visa Waiver Program".

Since you overstayed on a previous visit you failed to comply with the conditions of your admission and thus are (permanently) ineligible to use the VWP.

Having a different passport makes no difference - you overstayed and you are not eligible to use the VWP.

nachotexas Jul 4th 2012 10:04 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 10155042)
Most advice here will be what is the legal way, according to the rules, not what you can get away with.

crystal clear, not fraudulent intentions.

nachotexas Jul 4th 2012 10:08 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by md95065 (Post 10155045)
One of the (many) requirements in order to be eligible to use the Visa Waiver Program is to "have complied with all conditions of any previous admission under the Visa Waiver Program".

Since you overstayed on a previous visit you failed to comply with the conditions of your admission and thus are (permanently) ineligible to use the VWP.

Having a different passport makes no difference - you overstayed and you are not eligible to use the VWP.

Crystal clear, I do not have fraudulent intentions. But someone may or may not can get away with it. :unsure:

Noorah101 Jul 4th 2012 11:33 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10155000)
Can i go to US with a visa waiver program?

No.


or my be a problem?
Yes.


may i need to apply for a visa?
Yes.


Any suggestions or examples?
Yes, apply for a B-2 visa. You are no longer eligible for VWP travel.

Rene

Noorah101 Jul 4th 2012 11:34 am

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10155039)
Just to be clear:
Having two different passports do not matter, for US immigration you are the same person...

Correct.

Rene

nachotexas Jul 5th 2012 12:36 pm

Re: visa waiver
 
thank you for the law point of view. Anyone have "real life" experience? or have been in similar situations? maybe someone deported?

migrations laws in US its know for have "holes", and some "serious problems" can be fixed legally

RICH Jul 5th 2012 1:52 pm

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10155000)
Hello.
In 2001 i enter us with a argentinian passport and a visa waiver. They gibe me 90 days permission to stay, BUT i stayed for longer and then leave. I never applied for a visa, green card.
Now, i have a spaniard passport. Can i go to US with a visa waiver program? or my be a problem? may i need to apply for a visa? Any suggestions or examples? thank you

*I enter by airplane true Atlanta airport and leave by airplane true Dallas/Fort Worth airport.

Are you sure it was an Argentinian Passport? I do not see Argentina on the VWP list of participating countries.

ian-mstm Jul 5th 2012 9:12 pm

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by nachotexas (Post 10157231)
migrations laws in US its know for have "holes", and some "serious problems" can be fixed legally

Here's an idea... why don't you give it a try, and when things go belly up, come back here and complain that you didn't get good advice.

Otherwise, don't waste our time.

Ian

JSL8610 Jul 5th 2012 9:52 pm

Re: visa waiver
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10157805)
Here's an idea... why don't you give it a try, and when things go belly up, come back here and complain that you didn't get good advice.

Otherwise, don't waste our time.

Ian

Uh oh - somebody poked the bear one too many times. :scarper:


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