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Sophie tucker Feb 19th 2012 4:26 am

ICI tax returns as IMU
 
Hi there, does anyone know anything about the return of the tax ICI now called emu? :thumbdown:

homeandgardens Feb 19th 2012 5:48 am

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 
Hi
if you want to know how much you will be paying you can try this website:

http://www.ecodeldenaro.it/calcolo-imu-2012-online.htm

In the first box insert the 'rendita catastale'
In the second the 'number of children residing in the family under 26'

NOTE: the rendita catastale is not the valore catastale (official value of the property). You can check your rendita catastale on the 'atto di compravendita' when you bought the property, or your 'dichiarazione dei redditi' (tax return), or online at Agenzia del territorio:

http://sister2.agenziaterritorio.it/...sure/index.jsp

inserting your codice fiscale, the security text, and in the following pages the property information.

Have a try...

Regards
H&G

Sophie tucker Feb 19th 2012 6:03 am

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 
Thanks for info. I've also found this site that's good for tax info

http://www.delgiudice.clara.net/ENG/...S%20BUDGET.htm

We have also found a calculation that is used to work it out too, but apparently we have to wait until march to know what the local comune will add on. It would be much easier if they jut told us what we ad to pay, like uk council tax, by hey that's too simple!

modicasa Feb 19th 2012 5:54 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 
this year it will be ICI and TARSU, next year it will be IMU. Until the comunes set their budgets its impossibile to know how much you will have to pay.

Patty Feb 19th 2012 6:12 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 

Originally Posted by modicasa (Post 9910828)
this year it will be ICI and TARSU, next year it will be IMU. Until the comunes set their budgets its impossibile to know how much you will have to pay.

any idea when we will have to pay this tax ? (or is it early days yet ?)

Isakat Feb 19th 2012 8:04 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 
inserting your codice fiscale, the security text, and in the following pages the property information.

Have a try...

Regards
H&G[/QUOTE]

What do you put for security codice please?
Thanks

homeandgardens Feb 19th 2012 8:10 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 
Sophie,
really good website, thank you, but it also it ruined my monday morning. :thumbdown:
I can picture Mario Monti wearing a big Moira Stuart style wig and telling us: 'Taxes are taxing here in Italy...and they should be... ':rofl:





Originally Posted by Sophie tucker (Post 9910228)
Thanks for info. I've also found this site that's good for tax info

http://www.delgiudice.clara.net/ENG/...S%20BUDGET.htm

We have also found a calculation that is used to work it out too, but apparently we have to wait until march to know what the local comune will add on. It would be much easier if they jut told us what we ad to pay, like uk council tax, by hey that's too simple!


homeandgardens Feb 19th 2012 8:13 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 

Originally Posted by Isakat (Post 9910941)
inserting your codice fiscale, the security text, and in the following pages the property information.

Have a try...

Regards
H&G

What do you put for security codice please?
Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hi Isakat,
you should see a blurred image with some text and numbers. That's it.
They ask you to type in what you see on this image so that 'automatic multiple hit machines' or something like that can't overload the website.

MarkRD Feb 19th 2012 9:23 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 
Thankf or the tip-off.
As usual you'll probably have to work it out for yourself, or pay for an 'expert' to do it for you.

Isakat Feb 19th 2012 10:03 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 

Originally Posted by homeandgardens (Post 9910955)
What do you put for security codice please?
Thanks

Hi Isakat,
you should see a blurred image with some text and numbers. That's it.
They ask you to type in what you see on this image so that 'automatic multiple hit machines' or something like that can't overload the website.[/QUOTE]

Thanks homeandgardens, I did not put in the codice fiscale, so I did not get to the image with text and numbers.Will try later after I find OH'S codice fiscale.

To MarkRD, try the comune for help rather than pay a professional; they did the ICI calculation for us when we had to pay it first time and then I just paid the same each year and it was OK.

MarkRD Feb 19th 2012 11:01 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 

Originally Posted by Isakat (Post 9911089)
To MarkRD, try the comune for help rather than pay a professional; they did the ICI calculation for us when we had to pay it first time and then I just paid the same each year and it was OK.

Thanks - good advice. Does anybody know when it'll come into force btw? (I don't think they know yet...)

37100 Feb 19th 2012 11:25 pm

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 

Originally Posted by MarkRD (Post 9911154)
Thanks - good advice. Does anybody know when it'll come into force btw? (I don't think they know yet...)

16 of June and 16th of December. That is, if the town halls have worked it out. Like Isakat, our town hall did our first ICI and then we paid the same each year. I'm hoping that our town hall will send the first 'bolletino' out to everyone.

MarkRD Feb 20th 2012 12:07 am

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 

Originally Posted by 37100 (Post 9911165)
16 of June and 16th of December. That is, if the town halls have worked it out. Like Isakat, our town hall did our first ICI and then we paid the same each year. I'm hoping that our town hall will send the first 'bolletino' out to everyone.

That's never happened here..but perhaps now they're trying to make things a little more 'user-friendly', it might.
:o

pugliese Feb 20th 2012 1:45 am

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 
are they going to invent an "ostrich" tax as well to keep the emu company?:)

MarkRD Feb 20th 2012 2:38 am

Re: ICI tax returns as emu
 

Originally Posted by pugliese (Post 9911276)
are they going to invent an "ostrich" tax as well to keep the emu company?:)

:)
actually EMU also stands for European Monetary Union which might have a lot to do with it...
:confused:


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