toots sweet

Julie F
I have not followed this up as I am going to Portugal for the winter and am going tp start my application there.(hopefully avoiding the consulate).
I maybe wrong but i don't think you have to pass a language test if you are married to a Portuguese citizen.Perhaps someone can correct me if that's wrong.

gedscottish

No, you are correct, if you're married you don't need to do the language test, you do have to have been married for at least 3 years.

gedscottish

That's incorrect unless you are married or in a civil partnership with a Portuguese.
Instituto dos Registos e Notariado: Aquisição da Nacionalidade

The Portuguese exam required is called "CIPLE", costs around 80€ I believe.

JulieF

Thanks TS for the update -- and boa sorte!

The latest version of the law seems to be placing a greater emphasis on language (at least for those of us who don’t currently live in Portugal). If you don’t have the language, you have to prove your connection to the country, and some of the criteria are a little vague (how many visits would be enough?).

PRESUNÇÕES DE EXISTÊNCIA DE LIGAÇÃO EFETIVA À COMUNIDADE
NACIONAL
…
Conheça a língua portuguesa e esteja casado ou viva em união de facto com português originário, há 5 anos…

Quais os documentos que o requerente pode apresentar para ajudar a fundamentar a ligação efetiva � comunidade nacional?
• Residência legal em Portugal;
• Deslocações regulares a Portugal;
• Propriedade ou arrendamento de imóvel em Portugal há mais de 3 anos;
• Residência ou ligação a uma comunidade portuguesa do país onde reside;
• Certificado do conhecimento da língua portuguesa.
Source: http://www.portugal.gov.pt/media/303...ionalidade.pdf

BritInParis

Actually you do. The only prerequisite for a Portuguese passport is Portuguese citizenship. You will need to became a Portuguese citizen before you can obtain a Portuguese passport.

BEVS

This was in the mod queue because of the link and language.

I have approved the post but if someone would kindly come along and translate into English please, that would be helpful all round.

Thanks

macliam

REQUIREMENTS FOR EFFECTIVE CONNECTION WITH THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY
...
Know the Portuguese language and be married or live in union with a Portuguese national for 5 years...

What documents can the applicant present to help substantiate effective connection to the national community?
• A legal residence in Portugal;
• Regular trips to Portugal;
• Property or rental of property in Portugal for more than 3 years;
• Residence or connection to the Portuguese community in the country where you reside;
• Certificate of knowledge of the Portuguese language.

Harjot

Hi. I am about to apply for PT citizenship through marriage.Plz can you help me that where to apply , I meant can I apply Portuguese consulate Manchester plz? Thanks

JulieF

It depends where you live. I tried contacting London but I was redirected to Manchester because I live in the north.

toots sweet

hello,
Yes you can apply at manchester,but be prepared for a very long and frustrating time. You will probably need to visit personally and be prepared to be there all day and even then they may not be able to see you. I have posted previously
and there is a bit of info on what to do there,but it all boils down to being in the hands of the consulate.
Personally, I am spending a good part of the winter in Portugal and making my application there.

macliam

Probably a good idea - applying for anything at a consulate (TBF I only know the London one...) is an exercise in obfuscation if not downright unhelpfulness. I really think thay have a lotto going for the most frustrated clients each day..... Think of the worst bureaucracy you have experienced, times 10 - and that after waiting half a day to actually see someone.

My wife downright refused to approach them - getting her ID renewed etc., is a breeze in Portugal and for anyone who doesn't have oodles of spare time and live on top of a consulate, it's probably cheaper too!

Harjot

Thanks everyone � ����� ����� ����. Plz can u guys share some more information. I have my police certificate etc . Do I need to apply on SEF website first or can I go to consulate straight? is there any other documents to take plz? Thanks

nanookotn

I'd like to add to this oldish thread... I put in my application for citizenship through marriage last autumn (Nov 2017). I have now, in September 2018 received the decision which is 'no'. The main reason given that I have not been married to my Portuguese wife for FIVE years or more. The IRN website still, on this date, says three years.
Pee'd off? You bet I am.
The law was apparently amended on 21/6/2017 but no-one in Portugal has thought to update the Central Register website, i.e. the website of the people who make the decisions. So I am sure there are many more like me working with out-of-date information provided by the Portuguese Ministry of Justice

So beware... Portuguese bureaucracy is as alive and as crap as ever.

BritInParis

How irritating. Here's a good summary of the various changes.

https://www.plmj.com/xms/files/newsl...tuguesa_EN.pdf

nanookotn

Many thanks for that info... I wish I'd come across it last year. Perhaps I shall send the link to the IRN website team.