Non EU residency rule change
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As I posted we owe them nothing or any special treatment because of their background.
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I think the object of the changes is simply to legislate a route for the regularisation of the situation of people who've entered the country and overstayed but who have employment (or various other situations where chucking them out would be silly or inappropriate), rather than to force all of us to convert to Islam.
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I could well have misunderstood it but if I have got it right it could make a massive difference to Portugal & many people with good skills but not so much capital & that can't be a bad thing.
Although I have to say I find it very surprising that Portugal can make it's own rules that don't toe the EU line.
Although I have to say I find it very surprising that Portugal can make it's own rules that don't toe the EU line.
Not sure why you'd think it 'doesn't toe the EU line'. It doesn't have to.
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The law is only for non-EU nationals. It won't apply to non-EU's who are family members of EU nationals, so nothing to do with the EU. The change is being brought in under Portuguese domestic immigration laws, which it can change at any time.
Not sure why you'd think it 'doesn't toe the EU line'. It doesn't have to.
Not sure why you'd think it 'doesn't toe the EU line'. It doesn't have to.
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The law is only for non-EU nationals. It won't apply to non-EU's who are family members of EU nationals, so nothing to do with the EU. The change is being brought in under Portuguese domestic immigration laws, which it can change at any time.
Not sure why you'd think it 'doesn't toe the EU line'. It doesn't have to.
Not sure why you'd think it 'doesn't toe the EU line'. It doesn't have to.
And when the idea of a variety of freedom of movement operating between Portuguese-speaking nations was raised recently, the matter of its possibly being complicated by Portugal's membership of Schengen was acknowledged but not deemed insurmountable.
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The Golden Visa for third country nationals has been in place for some years and is allowed. Cyprus and I think Malta has a similar system.
This system has merely dropped the need of investing and buying property.
Some of SEF's webpages on immigration laws were only showing "Updating" yesterday.
This system has merely dropped the need of investing and buying property.
Some of SEF's webpages on immigration laws were only showing "Updating" yesterday.
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Nothing to do with individual countries non EU citizen regulations.
You may have noticed in your travels the different immigration desks.
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The Schengen rules also relate to persons entering the area for work purposes.
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That just reinforces the notion that the wealthy can buy pretty much anything but it isn't only the need to invest that's changed. The most significant thing here in my opinion is that it appears to give carte blanche to pretty much anybody to enter the labour market, regardless of nationality or skills.
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That just reinforces the notion that the wealthy can buy pretty much anything but it isn't only the need to invest that's changed. The most significant thing here in my opinion is that it appears to give carte blanche to pretty much anybody to enter the labour market, regardless of nationality or skills.
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Schengen deals with the cross-border rights of those within it's borders. This new rule solely appears to be about residency for non-EU nationals in a single member state.
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I'm certainly no expert but as I understand it the Schengen Zone & agreement covers more than simply free movement between member countries & also includes requirements (for example) for people from non EU countries that enter the zone on holiday but who then obtain work to return to their home country to apply for a change of visa & this change in the rules no longer requires them to do that.
Note the last 6 words of the 1st para in the link below where it says: " and the harmonisation of visa policies"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
Note the last 6 words of the 1st para in the link below where it says: " and the harmonisation of visa policies"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
Last edited by mfesharne; Sep 4th 2017 at 2:25 pm.
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Individual cases will still be decided by SEF & will still have to meet set criteria such as employment and/or skills etc & whilst the lump sum requirement of the Golden Visa system may no longer be required that might not be a bad thing for Portugal & applicants in many cases.
With regard to individual cases being decided by the SEF, one of the reasons for the introduction of this legislation by its proposers was specifically to eradicate the discretionary powers and thus the arbitrary nature of those decisions on the part of the SEF with regard to people in employment. The SEF won't have the power to turn down applications on the basis of skills if the applicant has secured employment or established themselves as self-employed. They can only turn down applications on specific grounds (as per the 2nd of the links in your opening post).