moving to Portugal with cars
Nov 20th 2017, 12:04 am
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moving to Portugal with cars
Hi there,
Moving to Portugal in January and hoping to get NHR status. I have two cars and I see the tax is quite high. One is 6 years old 2.2 litres, the other is an old-timer from 1989 6.7 litres. Can anyone tell me if I have to pay tax on either or both when importing or registering them, or can I bring them with me as you would personal effects? No intention of selling them on at all. I'm an EU resident with EU citizenship, all my worldlies are EU.
Do I need a specialist tax person?
thanks.
Paul
Moving to Portugal in January and hoping to get NHR status. I have two cars and I see the tax is quite high. One is 6 years old 2.2 litres, the other is an old-timer from 1989 6.7 litres. Can anyone tell me if I have to pay tax on either or both when importing or registering them, or can I bring them with me as you would personal effects? No intention of selling them on at all. I'm an EU resident with EU citizenship, all my worldlies are EU.
Do I need a specialist tax person?
thanks.
Paul
Nov 20th 2017, 5:45 am
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
Each adult new immigrant is allowed to import one motor vehicle free of import tax IF (note the big IF) the vehicle meets the required criteria which is:
The importer can prove the vehicle has been registered to the him/her for at least 12 months previously (in the country it's coming from) & that he/she has lived in that country for that time period, the importer must provide a Certificate of Conformity or if the vehicle was manufactured pre CoC they will accept a downloaded copy of the original sales brochure that shows the tech spec of the vehicle.
The vehicle must be standard or any (obvious) changes to the vehicle must be listed on a letter from a main dealer or manufacturer listing all changes from standard stating & that all said changes from standard are acceptable replacements.
The matriculation process must be started within 6 months of the applicant getting his/her Residencia. Whilst you can do the matriculation process yourself, it's much easier if you have a local agent do it for you & current (at time of writing (October 2017)) cost is usually about €400 plus the one off matriculation inspection of about €125 + annual road tax.
Road tax is calculated on engine size & emissions and priced as a new car on the date of matriculation not on year of manufacture. If you do go the tax free import route, you are not allowed to sell the car for 5 years unless you repay the tax you've avoided on a pro rata basis ie 20% per year.
If you pay the import tax it's calculated on age of vehicle, engine size & emissions NOT on value & is often VERY expensive, especially for cars with large engines/high emissions & some cars can cost tens of thousands of Euros & one day difference in the date of manufacture from one year to the next can sometimes mean a massive increase/decrease in tax payable so do your research on the simulator link below very carefully.
You're allowed to keep a foreign registered car in Portugal for 180 days maximum before you either matriculate it or remove it back to the country it came from for a further 180 days. The only exception to this rule is for some (but not all) students on some (but not all) study permits
If you have a foreign registered car in Portugal, it must be taxed, tested & insured in it’s country of registration all the time it’s in Portugal & if the GNR catch you with an overstaying vehicle or without tax, test or insurance, they can & often do, permanently confiscate the vehicle which they will then sell or destroy. Note that whilst a foreign registered vehicle can be put through a Portuguese IPO/MOT inspection the pass certificate has no legal standing & is not a replacement for the test certificate from the country of origin.
When Portuguese matriculation/registration is complete the vehicle has to be submitted for a one off matriculation inspection which is a greatly enhanced safety inspection which includes a rolling road test & if the vehicle comes from a country that drives on the left the headlight units will need to be changed. Beam deflectors are not acceptable.
Once matriculated the vehicle is subject to the ordinary Portuguese IPO annual inspection.
If importing from the UK you will be expected to provide a ‘Car Importation Certificate’ Details of how to obtain that here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notarial...e-for-portugal
Importing and Registering Classic Cars/Motorcycle in Portugal
Classic cars/Motorcycles can be driven freely into Portugal providing they are for personal, temporary use and have the necessary vehicle taxation, insurance, and documentation.
Those wishing to import a classic car permanently into Portugal may drive the car for four days before registering it with the Portuguese customs office. (Alfândegas).
Vehicle tax (Imposto Automóvel) must be paid for all classic cars unless registered as a vehicle of historical interest to Portugal when it becomes exempt. This classification must be renewed annually.
Vehicles made before 1960 are taxed at a lower rate
Classic cars brought into Portugal on a permanent basis must meet the following legal requirements:
Be classified by the International Classic Car Federation (Fédération Internationale des Véhicule Anciens, FIVA www.fiva.org )
Have a Classic Car Certificate (Certificado de Automóvel Antigo) from FIVA or ACP AKA a classic car passport.
Have a Technical Logbook/Manual (Ficha Técnica) from FIVA or other competent organisation. They will accept an ordinary workshop manual or ecopy of such.
Have a colour photograph of the vehicle which also goes in the FIVA classic car passport
Have a vehicle Logbook (Livrete) and Owner's Document (Título de Propridade) issued in the name of the owner/driver from the country of import.
Have the original and latest commercial purchase receipt (Factura Comercial)
Have an Authority to Circulate Document (Guia de Circulação) issued by Customs (Alfândegas) which is issued on arrival
Vehicles from the USA, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, India or the UK must meet European Union homologation approval standards if the vehicle is more than 30 years old. This means headlights, running lights & indicators etc might need to be changed.
Vehicles over 30 years old may be classified as having cultural and historic interest to Portuguese State Heritage and might not need to undergo any kind of homologation adaptations such as catalytic converters etc.
As a European Union member state Portugal adheres to the Mutual Recognition Scheme which means that the IMTT needs to be sure that any vehicle imported into Portugal is suitable for use on Portuguese roads. The driver/owner must provide documentary evidence from FIVA or the manufacturer of any physical alterations made to the vehicle.
Import duty
A classic vehicle may be imported into Portugal tax-free provided:
The vehicle is for private use only.
The vehicle has been used by its registered owner in their former country for at least 12 months previously.
The owner has submitted a copy of passport, driver's licence, residency (or application), tax details (fiscal number).
A certificate of cancellation of residence issued by the person's consulate. The consulate may charge you for this but if you use an agent to do the matriculation this document may sometimes not be required. They may (but not necessarily) also require you to prove your residency in the country of registration for 12 months prior to import.
The Portuguese Classic Cars Club (Clube Português de Automóveis Antigos) has a lot of useful information (in Portuguese).
Clube Português de Automóveis Antigos (Head Office)
At: Rua Duque de Saldanha 308, 4300-094 Porto
Tel: 225 377 699 / 225 362 128
If coming from/importing your classic or non classic vehicle from a non EU country, you need to list it on the certificate of baggage (in the name of the registered owner) that you must obtain from the Portuguese Embassy or High Commission in the country you’re coming from BEFORE you leave & to do that, you will need:
Registration document of the vehicle (that shows the car has been registered in your name for at least 12 months)
Export Clearance Certificate
Employment letter or letter from bookkeeper stating you were employed/self employed etc.
Signed declaration stating that you are planning to reside in Portugal on a permanent basis.
Drivers licence.
Passport that shows your residence permit in the country you’re coming from.
Online calculator for both import & annual road tax here: IUC - Imposto Único de Circulação 2017
Note this recent message from ACP Classicos:
"Tax Table About Vehicles (ISV)
With the entry into force of the State Budget 2017 the import of classics underwent a significant change. In response to the European decision to condemn the Portuguese state by excessive taxation on imports of used cars, the 2017 State Budget amended the maximum discount percentage in the ISV table. The discount, here 52% for cars with more than 5 years, changed to 80% cars with more than 10 years.
This amendment has no expression in cars everyday, once the market registers demand for vehicles with a maximum of 4 or 5 years. However, when we think of the import of classics (by definition all over 10 years), this change is important but a limited number of cars.
The classic cars produced before 1970 are not affected by the scale of the environmental component because the ISV is calculated only by the table for the displacement. In this motor assembly, the reduction in tax payable is in some cases very considerable.
At the other extreme are the later classics to 1970, that the deterioration in the table relating to emissions, also suffered a considerable deterioration in the final value of the ISV.
For better understanding drawn up a table based on ISV simulator of the Ministry of Finance and estimated the ISV to some classics of different engine capacities.
In these examples, the year of manufacture before or after 1970, it is absolutely crucial in the final value.
IN 2017 IMPORTS OF CLASSICS
Jaguar E TYPE 4.2 S2 4235 cc 350g / km 31/12/1969 € 6972.12
01/01/1970 € 50,011.10
Porsche 911 T 1991 cc 250 g / km 31/12/1969 € 2188.36
01/01/1970 € 16,950.31
Alfa Romeo 1600 GT 1570 cc 190 g / km 31/12/1969 € 1290.87
01/01/1970 € 5818.15
mini 1000 998 cc 150 g / km 31/12/1969 € 334.47
01/01/1970 € 1866.71
This table gives some examples of the increased tax burden on headquarters of ISV (Tax on Vehicles) on imports. It wants, above all, to draw attention of all enthusiasts of the importance that the first registration date may have the final tax payable. In selected models, the simple 1 - day difference (1969 to 1970) may cause a worsening of thousands of euros.
CO2 values were estimated and are intended to show an order of magnitude. Before making purchasing decision, we strongly advise consulting the ISV simulator or ACP import department. "
NOTE: Classic vehicles can (as mentioned previously) sometimes be exempt from the annual road tax fee if you can get it registered as a car of historical interest to Portugal & to do that, you need to join & remain a member of ACP & ACP/ Classicos who will inspect the vehicle & then issue an annual certificate that you then present to the fiscal office every year.
This however does only allow very limited mileage but the upside is it also allows for very inexpensive insurance. I only pay in the region of €36 per year for a classic car with a 5.9 litre engine.
Be aware that Portugal often tends to suffer from what might be described as ‘variable bureaucracy syndrome’ where individual civil servants interpret the rules any way they choose to which can make this relatively simple process needlessly complicated and that a matriculation agent will achieve far more in less time than if you do the process yourself simply because they know the rules inside out & will correct the civil servant with ‘VBR’ far more easily than you ever will.
Hope that helps & good luck!
The importer can prove the vehicle has been registered to the him/her for at least 12 months previously (in the country it's coming from) & that he/she has lived in that country for that time period, the importer must provide a Certificate of Conformity or if the vehicle was manufactured pre CoC they will accept a downloaded copy of the original sales brochure that shows the tech spec of the vehicle.
The vehicle must be standard or any (obvious) changes to the vehicle must be listed on a letter from a main dealer or manufacturer listing all changes from standard stating & that all said changes from standard are acceptable replacements.
The matriculation process must be started within 6 months of the applicant getting his/her Residencia. Whilst you can do the matriculation process yourself, it's much easier if you have a local agent do it for you & current (at time of writing (October 2017)) cost is usually about €400 plus the one off matriculation inspection of about €125 + annual road tax.
Road tax is calculated on engine size & emissions and priced as a new car on the date of matriculation not on year of manufacture. If you do go the tax free import route, you are not allowed to sell the car for 5 years unless you repay the tax you've avoided on a pro rata basis ie 20% per year.
If you pay the import tax it's calculated on age of vehicle, engine size & emissions NOT on value & is often VERY expensive, especially for cars with large engines/high emissions & some cars can cost tens of thousands of Euros & one day difference in the date of manufacture from one year to the next can sometimes mean a massive increase/decrease in tax payable so do your research on the simulator link below very carefully.
You're allowed to keep a foreign registered car in Portugal for 180 days maximum before you either matriculate it or remove it back to the country it came from for a further 180 days. The only exception to this rule is for some (but not all) students on some (but not all) study permits
If you have a foreign registered car in Portugal, it must be taxed, tested & insured in it’s country of registration all the time it’s in Portugal & if the GNR catch you with an overstaying vehicle or without tax, test or insurance, they can & often do, permanently confiscate the vehicle which they will then sell or destroy. Note that whilst a foreign registered vehicle can be put through a Portuguese IPO/MOT inspection the pass certificate has no legal standing & is not a replacement for the test certificate from the country of origin.
When Portuguese matriculation/registration is complete the vehicle has to be submitted for a one off matriculation inspection which is a greatly enhanced safety inspection which includes a rolling road test & if the vehicle comes from a country that drives on the left the headlight units will need to be changed. Beam deflectors are not acceptable.
Once matriculated the vehicle is subject to the ordinary Portuguese IPO annual inspection.
If importing from the UK you will be expected to provide a ‘Car Importation Certificate’ Details of how to obtain that here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notarial...e-for-portugal
Importing and Registering Classic Cars/Motorcycle in Portugal
Classic cars/Motorcycles can be driven freely into Portugal providing they are for personal, temporary use and have the necessary vehicle taxation, insurance, and documentation.
Those wishing to import a classic car permanently into Portugal may drive the car for four days before registering it with the Portuguese customs office. (Alfândegas).
Vehicle tax (Imposto Automóvel) must be paid for all classic cars unless registered as a vehicle of historical interest to Portugal when it becomes exempt. This classification must be renewed annually.
Vehicles made before 1960 are taxed at a lower rate
Classic cars brought into Portugal on a permanent basis must meet the following legal requirements:
Be classified by the International Classic Car Federation (Fédération Internationale des Véhicule Anciens, FIVA www.fiva.org )
Have a Classic Car Certificate (Certificado de Automóvel Antigo) from FIVA or ACP AKA a classic car passport.
Have a Technical Logbook/Manual (Ficha Técnica) from FIVA or other competent organisation. They will accept an ordinary workshop manual or ecopy of such.
Have a colour photograph of the vehicle which also goes in the FIVA classic car passport
Have a vehicle Logbook (Livrete) and Owner's Document (Título de Propridade) issued in the name of the owner/driver from the country of import.
Have the original and latest commercial purchase receipt (Factura Comercial)
Have an Authority to Circulate Document (Guia de Circulação) issued by Customs (Alfândegas) which is issued on arrival
Vehicles from the USA, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, India or the UK must meet European Union homologation approval standards if the vehicle is more than 30 years old. This means headlights, running lights & indicators etc might need to be changed.
Vehicles over 30 years old may be classified as having cultural and historic interest to Portuguese State Heritage and might not need to undergo any kind of homologation adaptations such as catalytic converters etc.
As a European Union member state Portugal adheres to the Mutual Recognition Scheme which means that the IMTT needs to be sure that any vehicle imported into Portugal is suitable for use on Portuguese roads. The driver/owner must provide documentary evidence from FIVA or the manufacturer of any physical alterations made to the vehicle.
Import duty
A classic vehicle may be imported into Portugal tax-free provided:
The vehicle is for private use only.
The vehicle has been used by its registered owner in their former country for at least 12 months previously.
The owner has submitted a copy of passport, driver's licence, residency (or application), tax details (fiscal number).
A certificate of cancellation of residence issued by the person's consulate. The consulate may charge you for this but if you use an agent to do the matriculation this document may sometimes not be required. They may (but not necessarily) also require you to prove your residency in the country of registration for 12 months prior to import.
The Portuguese Classic Cars Club (Clube Português de Automóveis Antigos) has a lot of useful information (in Portuguese).
Clube Português de Automóveis Antigos (Head Office)
At: Rua Duque de Saldanha 308, 4300-094 Porto
Tel: 225 377 699 / 225 362 128
If coming from/importing your classic or non classic vehicle from a non EU country, you need to list it on the certificate of baggage (in the name of the registered owner) that you must obtain from the Portuguese Embassy or High Commission in the country you’re coming from BEFORE you leave & to do that, you will need:
Registration document of the vehicle (that shows the car has been registered in your name for at least 12 months)
Export Clearance Certificate
Employment letter or letter from bookkeeper stating you were employed/self employed etc.
Signed declaration stating that you are planning to reside in Portugal on a permanent basis.
Drivers licence.
Passport that shows your residence permit in the country you’re coming from.
Online calculator for both import & annual road tax here: IUC - Imposto Único de Circulação 2017
Note this recent message from ACP Classicos:
"Tax Table About Vehicles (ISV)
With the entry into force of the State Budget 2017 the import of classics underwent a significant change. In response to the European decision to condemn the Portuguese state by excessive taxation on imports of used cars, the 2017 State Budget amended the maximum discount percentage in the ISV table. The discount, here 52% for cars with more than 5 years, changed to 80% cars with more than 10 years.
This amendment has no expression in cars everyday, once the market registers demand for vehicles with a maximum of 4 or 5 years. However, when we think of the import of classics (by definition all over 10 years), this change is important but a limited number of cars.
The classic cars produced before 1970 are not affected by the scale of the environmental component because the ISV is calculated only by the table for the displacement. In this motor assembly, the reduction in tax payable is in some cases very considerable.
At the other extreme are the later classics to 1970, that the deterioration in the table relating to emissions, also suffered a considerable deterioration in the final value of the ISV.
For better understanding drawn up a table based on ISV simulator of the Ministry of Finance and estimated the ISV to some classics of different engine capacities.
In these examples, the year of manufacture before or after 1970, it is absolutely crucial in the final value.
IN 2017 IMPORTS OF CLASSICS
Jaguar E TYPE 4.2 S2 4235 cc 350g / km 31/12/1969 € 6972.12
01/01/1970 € 50,011.10
Porsche 911 T 1991 cc 250 g / km 31/12/1969 € 2188.36
01/01/1970 € 16,950.31
Alfa Romeo 1600 GT 1570 cc 190 g / km 31/12/1969 € 1290.87
01/01/1970 € 5818.15
mini 1000 998 cc 150 g / km 31/12/1969 € 334.47
01/01/1970 € 1866.71
This table gives some examples of the increased tax burden on headquarters of ISV (Tax on Vehicles) on imports. It wants, above all, to draw attention of all enthusiasts of the importance that the first registration date may have the final tax payable. In selected models, the simple 1 - day difference (1969 to 1970) may cause a worsening of thousands of euros.
CO2 values were estimated and are intended to show an order of magnitude. Before making purchasing decision, we strongly advise consulting the ISV simulator or ACP import department. "
NOTE: Classic vehicles can (as mentioned previously) sometimes be exempt from the annual road tax fee if you can get it registered as a car of historical interest to Portugal & to do that, you need to join & remain a member of ACP & ACP/ Classicos who will inspect the vehicle & then issue an annual certificate that you then present to the fiscal office every year.
This however does only allow very limited mileage but the upside is it also allows for very inexpensive insurance. I only pay in the region of €36 per year for a classic car with a 5.9 litre engine.
Be aware that Portugal often tends to suffer from what might be described as ‘variable bureaucracy syndrome’ where individual civil servants interpret the rules any way they choose to which can make this relatively simple process needlessly complicated and that a matriculation agent will achieve far more in less time than if you do the process yourself simply because they know the rules inside out & will correct the civil servant with ‘VBR’ far more easily than you ever will.
Hope that helps & good luck!
Last edited by mfesharne; Nov 20th 2017 at 5:51 am.
Nov 20th 2017, 8:24 am
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
I should have added that your best option would be to import the classic tax free & pay the tax on the newer car.
I'd also be interested to know what the classic car is?
I'd also be interested to know what the classic car is?
Nov 20th 2017, 11:42 am
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
Hi there,
Moving to Portugal in January and hoping to get NHR status. I have two cars and I see the tax is quite high. One is 6 years old 2.2 litres, the other is an old-timer from 1989 6.7 litres. Can anyone tell me if I have to pay tax on either or both when importing or registering them, or can I bring them with me as you would personal effects? No intention of selling them on at all. I'm an EU resident with EU citizenship, all my worldlies are EU.
Do I need a specialist tax person?
thanks.
Paul
Moving to Portugal in January and hoping to get NHR status. I have two cars and I see the tax is quite high. One is 6 years old 2.2 litres, the other is an old-timer from 1989 6.7 litres. Can anyone tell me if I have to pay tax on either or both when importing or registering them, or can I bring them with me as you would personal effects? No intention of selling them on at all. I'm an EU resident with EU citizenship, all my worldlies are EU.
Do I need a specialist tax person?
thanks.
Paul
you should check the ACP website as they have plenty of info regarding importation of cars.
In general terms you will be levied on 2 taxes, one for road circulation another one for the vehicle (you can find a simulation on the portuguese Tax Authority website)
Hope it helps,
David.
Nov 20th 2017, 3:51 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
Thank you for the reply. Its really comprehensive and I was struggling a bit to find the information. I'm going to have to read through it carefully to see what are the best options. I've owned a few classics but cross border issues seem to always be a problem. This one is a RHD Corniche convertible originally from the UK, headlights have been switched. I've had it for quite a while now, and it qualifies as classic in Belgium under the 25 year rule, but FIVA requires it to be 30 years old, so that is not until August 2019. Its not a car to use every day for the sake of the cost of petrol if nothing else. Daily driver is a Mercedes A207 2.2CDi Euro5 from 2010 I've had for some time, and a quick calculation on that says that paying the import tax would still be cheaper than selling and buying similar in Portugal, and seems most vehicles in Portugal have twice the odometer readings. Need to do a real comparison because I dont drive that much. I do plan to buy an older Toyota Jeep in Portugal for kicking about in. It may be an idea, I need to look at it, to run the Corniche in and out of Portugal, and just keep it registered, taxed and insured in Belgium until its 30. Need to check the differences in road tax as well as import taxes. This gives me a good start for the calculations. I tried the Portuguese official site calculator, but it only went back to =>2005 I think, and it was an enormous amount of money for the Corniche. I like the Lisbon area. Looked at Sintra more closely earlier this year, but the climate there's kind of bizarre, so I think Cascais/Parede/Oeiras is where I start looking more seriously.
Paul
Nov 20th 2017, 4:05 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
Morning Paul,
you should check the ACP website as they have plenty of info regarding importation of cars.
In general terms you will be levied on 2 taxes, one for road circulation another one for the vehicle (you can find a simulation on the portuguese Tax Authority website)
Hope it helps,
David.
you should check the ACP website as they have plenty of info regarding importation of cars.
In general terms you will be levied on 2 taxes, one for road circulation another one for the vehicle (you can find a simulation on the portuguese Tax Authority website)
Hope it helps,
David.
Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure which site is which just now - need to look. I went on one official site, and the calculation if there was no classic car provision or accompanying residency change (which it didn't seem to give options for) was quite expensive.
Nov 20th 2017, 4:23 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
Brilliant summary from MFesharne but just a small addition :
Where it is stated : When Portuguese matriculation/registration is complete the vehicle has to be submitted for a one off matriculation inspection which is a greatly enhanced safety inspection which includes a rolling road test & if the vehicle comes from a country that drives on the left the headlight units will need to be changed. Beam deflectors are not acceptable.
The actual inspection is part of the matriculation process not after it . In addition a raft of documentation will be needed :
- Proof of residence for 12 consecutive months in the country of origin - normally utility bills
-Certificate of departure from local Town Hall confirming you are "Moving to Portugal"
-Vehicle Certificate of Conformity ( original )
- Registration documen for car
-Portuguese Residence Certificate and Fiscal Number and a Portuguese address
-Certificates from Portuguese tax Authorities covering 3 previous years showing no fiscal history in Portugal.
All not difficult but time-consuming. In my case brought car in from Spain, process took about four weeks and then, two weeks later had to go back to same inspection centre for normal Portuguese MOT equivalent, actually had the same inspector. He remembered me because we had spent 15 minutes together scrabbling around under the car to find and confirm the engine number during the pre-matriculation inspection six weeks earlier.
Where it is stated : When Portuguese matriculation/registration is complete the vehicle has to be submitted for a one off matriculation inspection which is a greatly enhanced safety inspection which includes a rolling road test & if the vehicle comes from a country that drives on the left the headlight units will need to be changed. Beam deflectors are not acceptable.
The actual inspection is part of the matriculation process not after it . In addition a raft of documentation will be needed :
- Proof of residence for 12 consecutive months in the country of origin - normally utility bills
-Certificate of departure from local Town Hall confirming you are "Moving to Portugal"
-Vehicle Certificate of Conformity ( original )
- Registration documen for car
-Portuguese Residence Certificate and Fiscal Number and a Portuguese address
-Certificates from Portuguese tax Authorities covering 3 previous years showing no fiscal history in Portugal.
All not difficult but time-consuming. In my case brought car in from Spain, process took about four weeks and then, two weeks later had to go back to same inspection centre for normal Portuguese MOT equivalent, actually had the same inspector. He remembered me because we had spent 15 minutes together scrabbling around under the car to find and confirm the engine number during the pre-matriculation inspection six weeks earlier.
Nov 20th 2017, 4:41 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
Brilliant summary from MFesharne but just a small addition :
Where it is stated : When Portuguese matriculation/registration is complete the vehicle has to be submitted for a one off matriculation inspection which is a greatly enhanced safety inspection which includes a rolling road test & if the vehicle comes from a country that drives on the left the headlight units will need to be changed. Beam deflectors are not acceptable.
The actual inspection is part of the matriculation process not after it . In addition a raft of documentation will be needed :
- Proof of residence for 12 consecutive months in the country of origin - normally utility bills
-Certificate of departure from local Town Hall confirming you are "Moving to Portugal"
-Vehicle Certificate of Conformity ( original )
- Registration documen for car
-Portuguese Residence Certificate and Fiscal Number and a Portuguese address
-Certificates from Portuguese tax Authorities covering 3 previous years showing no fiscal history in Portugal.
All not difficult but time-consuming. In my case brought car in from Spain, process took about four weeks and then, two weeks later had to go back to same inspection centre for normal Portuguese MOT equivalent, actually had the same inspector. He remembered me because we had spent 15 minutes together scrabbling around under the car to find and confirm the engine number during the pre-matriculation inspection six weeks earlier.
Where it is stated : When Portuguese matriculation/registration is complete the vehicle has to be submitted for a one off matriculation inspection which is a greatly enhanced safety inspection which includes a rolling road test & if the vehicle comes from a country that drives on the left the headlight units will need to be changed. Beam deflectors are not acceptable.
The actual inspection is part of the matriculation process not after it . In addition a raft of documentation will be needed :
- Proof of residence for 12 consecutive months in the country of origin - normally utility bills
-Certificate of departure from local Town Hall confirming you are "Moving to Portugal"
-Vehicle Certificate of Conformity ( original )
- Registration documen for car
-Portuguese Residence Certificate and Fiscal Number and a Portuguese address
-Certificates from Portuguese tax Authorities covering 3 previous years showing no fiscal history in Portugal.
All not difficult but time-consuming. In my case brought car in from Spain, process took about four weeks and then, two weeks later had to go back to same inspection centre for normal Portuguese MOT equivalent, actually had the same inspector. He remembered me because we had spent 15 minutes together scrabbling around under the car to find and confirm the engine number during the pre-matriculation inspection six weeks earlier.
Headlights, CoC & residencia (which you can't obtain without a NIF number) are mentioned.
Proof of residence is a tricky one & all one needs to prove is that you have owned the vehicle in the country of registration for 12 months which should be shown on the registration document & purchase receipt.
Nov 20th 2017, 4:42 pm
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Paul
VERY nice vehicle & (going from memory) I believe there's a similar one somewhere in the Cascais area.
VERY nice vehicle & (going from memory) I believe there's a similar one somewhere in the Cascais area.
Nov 20th 2017, 4:45 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
The test is the last step of the process but take your point & will amend accordingly to make that clearer.
Headlights, CoC & residencia (which you can't obtain without a NIF number) are mentioned.
Proof of residence is a tricky one & all one needs to prove is that you have owned the vehicle in the country of registration for 12 months which should be shown on the registration document & purchase receipt.
Headlights, CoC & residencia (which you can't obtain without a NIF number) are mentioned.
Proof of residence is a tricky one & all one needs to prove is that you have owned the vehicle in the country of registration for 12 months which should be shown on the registration document & purchase receipt.
Here ( Faro ) they insisted on a certificate/piece of paper from the Spanish Town Hall where I was resident which showed I had "Left Register for Portugal" in addition to utility bills although I had a purchase receipt ( 6 years before I moved and the Spanish Traffic office registration certificate.
Nov 20th 2017, 5:28 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
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Here ( Faro ) they insisted on a certificate/piece of paper from the Spanish Town Hall where I was resident which showed I had "Left Register for Portugal" in addition to utility bills although I had a purchase receipt ( 6 years before I moved and the Spanish Traffic office registration certificate.
Here ( Faro ) they insisted on a certificate/piece of paper from the Spanish Town Hall where I was resident which showed I had "Left Register for Portugal" in addition to utility bills although I had a purchase receipt ( 6 years before I moved and the Spanish Traffic office registration certificate.
Nov 20th 2017, 9:04 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
Thank you kindly mfesharne. Its good to hear there may be another one in the area. I've posted on the RR/Bentley forum now to try to find out. Gives me the hope that perseverance could pay off and I might actually get to drive it again. In February I ended up in the middle of a new LEZ with no resident exemption permits. Nothing under 40 years old or without Euro1 is allowed. Obviously I can't get a Euro1 for it, so...
Nov 20th 2017, 9:08 pm
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Nov 20th 2017, 9:55 pm
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Re: moving to Portugal with cars
The test is the last step of the process but take your point & will amend accordingly to make that clearer.
Headlights, CoC & residencia (which you can't obtain without a NIF number) are mentioned.
Proof of residence is a tricky one & all one needs to prove is that you have owned the vehicle in the country of registration for 12 months which should be shown on the registration document & purchase receipt.
Headlights, CoC & residencia (which you can't obtain without a NIF number) are mentioned.
Proof of residence is a tricky one & all one needs to prove is that you have owned the vehicle in the country of registration for 12 months which should be shown on the registration document & purchase receipt.
You can't retrospectively obtain a CoC for a 1989 vehicle so that's going to be the brochure of some kind, but RR never gave out any specs. I've pursued that one before. I have the factory build file for it.
The Antwerp Town Hall will never endorse anything that declares where I'm going next.
The last one has to be tricky though. How do I prove I don't have a fiscal history in Portugal. I mean, I don't, but I'm not sure how to prove that?
It looks like I should renew roadworthiness certificates before I leave if this process is going to take more than three months. I'm not sure how long the RR has to go - I will have to find that, but the Mercedes is May.