making the move
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making the move
Did make a post few weeks ago,cannot find it,but here is post 3 so suppose I can PM for more specific advice.
Hello,
Lived in far east for far toooooooooooooo long,sick to death of it all,and looking for re-location to Portugal. Am 68 got good pensions,but got Thai wife aged 50. This is a problem,but do not intend to be pinned down indefinitely to Thailand because of her ,she will probably feel like a fish out of water there,anyway Ill bring her along,see how it goes,get her a return ticket if things do not turn out too good, also got a couple of mutts saved from being eaten,want to bring them along, they just will not let me out of sight without howling,must have realised they taste too good
Just like to say you lot living in Portugal I have always envied you,far better than Spain,even though I can speak Spanish,never particularly felt inclined to live there.
Rambled on,but one question dental work here is comparatively cheap compared to the UK,is it expensive there? Medically here is expensive.. Might get few teeth crowned before the move if so
Hello,
Lived in far east for far toooooooooooooo long,sick to death of it all,and looking for re-location to Portugal. Am 68 got good pensions,but got Thai wife aged 50. This is a problem,but do not intend to be pinned down indefinitely to Thailand because of her ,she will probably feel like a fish out of water there,anyway Ill bring her along,see how it goes,get her a return ticket if things do not turn out too good, also got a couple of mutts saved from being eaten,want to bring them along, they just will not let me out of sight without howling,must have realised they taste too good
Just like to say you lot living in Portugal I have always envied you,far better than Spain,even though I can speak Spanish,never particularly felt inclined to live there.
Rambled on,but one question dental work here is comparatively cheap compared to the UK,is it expensive there? Medically here is expensive.. Might get few teeth crowned before the move if so
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Re: making the move
On the subject of teeth: It's unlikely anyone here will know dental costs in Thailand but for what it's worth, I pay about €25 for check, Xray, drill and fill here and standards are pretty good.
Assuming you want to bring your wife here on a permanent basis, it'll be a lot easier for you if the marriage took place in the UK or elsewhere in Europe. If it took place outside Europe then you need to have an apostille attached to your original marriage certificate that says the marriage is legal. - UKRam who posts here has had recent experience of that so he'll probably comment further on that.
Dogs: Reguire to be jabbed for rabies etc and have a pet passport. It's a relatively complicated and slow process but far from impossible....... not cheap though.
Assuming you want to bring your wife here on a permanent basis, it'll be a lot easier for you if the marriage took place in the UK or elsewhere in Europe. If it took place outside Europe then you need to have an apostille attached to your original marriage certificate that says the marriage is legal. - UKRam who posts here has had recent experience of that so he'll probably comment further on that.
Dogs: Reguire to be jabbed for rabies etc and have a pet passport. It's a relatively complicated and slow process but far from impossible....... not cheap though.
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Re: making the move
On the subject of teeth: It's unlikely anyone here will know dental costs in Thailand but for what it's worth, I pay about €25 for check, Xray, drill and fill here and standards are pretty good.
Assuming you want to bring your wife here on a permanent basis, it'll be a lot easier for you if the marriage took place in the UK or elsewhere in Europe. If it took place outside Europe then you need to have an apostille attached to your original marriage certificate that says the marriage is legal. - UKRam who posts here has had recent experience of that so he'll probably comment further on that.
Dogs: Reguire to be jabbed for rabies etc and have a pet passport. It's a relatively complicated and slow process but far from impossible....... not cheap though.
Assuming you want to bring your wife here on a permanent basis, it'll be a lot easier for you if the marriage took place in the UK or elsewhere in Europe. If it took place outside Europe then you need to have an apostille attached to your original marriage certificate that says the marriage is legal. - UKRam who posts here has had recent experience of that so he'll probably comment further on that.
Dogs: Reguire to be jabbed for rabies etc and have a pet passport. It's a relatively complicated and slow process but far from impossible....... not cheap though.
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For the dog you will need a vet to give rabies vaccine, then wait 6 weeks [could be more], then send a blood sample to the Pastur institute in Paris for a "titer" test. takes a few weeks and some cash, they send you back a certificate.
There will be someone local to you who has experience of it all, but basically it all has to be processed by a veterinary clinic who knows what the Europeans want to see.
Thai wives are often a problem due to racial discrimination, but I'm sure you both know that. There will be a few extra hurdles is all.
Medical and dental probably more expensive than Thailand, but a lot cheaper than northern Europe.
If you have work done before traveling, leave plenty of time in case of complications. You don't want a crown coming loose or an abscess when you have a non-refundable flight booked.
Having also lived in the East for much of my life, I would say that Portugal is a sort of medium between east and west; not so hectic and expensive as northern Europe, but still more expensive than the far east.
Infrastructure is good, bureaucracy terrible but not as bad as Thailand.
There will be someone local to you who has experience of it all, but basically it all has to be processed by a veterinary clinic who knows what the Europeans want to see.
Thai wives are often a problem due to racial discrimination, but I'm sure you both know that. There will be a few extra hurdles is all.
Medical and dental probably more expensive than Thailand, but a lot cheaper than northern Europe.
If you have work done before traveling, leave plenty of time in case of complications. You don't want a crown coming loose or an abscess when you have a non-refundable flight booked.
Having also lived in the East for much of my life, I would say that Portugal is a sort of medium between east and west; not so hectic and expensive as northern Europe, but still more expensive than the far east.
Infrastructure is good, bureaucracy terrible but not as bad as Thailand.
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Re: making the move
For the dog you will need a vet to give rabies vaccine, then wait 6 weeks [could be more], then send a blood sample to the Pastur institute in Paris for a "titer" test. takes a few weeks and some cash, they send you back a certificate.
There will be someone local to you who has experience of it all, but basically it all has to be processed by a veterinary clinic who knows what the Europeans want to see.
Thai wives are often a problem due to racial discrimination, but I'm sure you both know that. There will be a few extra hurdles is all.
Medical and dental probably more expensive than Thailand, but a lot cheaper than northern Europe.
If you have work done before traveling, leave plenty of time in case of complications. You don't want a crown coming loose or an abscess when you have a non-refundable flight booked.
Having also lived in the East for much of my life, I would say that Portugal is a sort of medium between east and west; not so hectic and expensive as northern Europe, but still more expensive than the far east.
Infrastructure is good, bureaucracy terrible but not as bad as Thailand.
There will be someone local to you who has experience of it all, but basically it all has to be processed by a veterinary clinic who knows what the Europeans want to see.
Thai wives are often a problem due to racial discrimination, but I'm sure you both know that. There will be a few extra hurdles is all.
Medical and dental probably more expensive than Thailand, but a lot cheaper than northern Europe.
If you have work done before traveling, leave plenty of time in case of complications. You don't want a crown coming loose or an abscess when you have a non-refundable flight booked.
Having also lived in the East for much of my life, I would say that Portugal is a sort of medium between east and west; not so hectic and expensive as northern Europe, but still more expensive than the far east.
Infrastructure is good, bureaucracy terrible but not as bad as Thailand.
Just get so homesick lately too,and nothing in the UK any more.
Think a lot of ex-pats are thinking the same as I living here,some choose Spain,but Portugal seems to be favourite with more experienced returnees
Thailand is way different to few years ago,the Thais not as friendly for sure,think they want rid of farang now ,and I just want a steady climb down to securing a place for my old old age
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You would have to go to a private dentist here as I presume you do not have UK Health care. Cost for a filling is E75.00.
As you will have to go through the same process as me having a non EU wife, feel free to ask me questions when you start.
As you will have to go through the same process as me having a non EU wife, feel free to ask me questions when you start.
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Maybe the cost depends on the individual case but down here in the central zone, an x-ray, local anaesthetic, drill and fill recently cost me about €25 or €30.
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Was that not on your Portuguese SS as I recall you saying that you managed to get SS?
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I don't know if there are NHS dentists here but if there are, we don't use them. Our dentist is completely private.
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So my daughter was ripped off. A week later in the UK, she flossed her teeth and it fell out. E75 wasted.
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Certainly sounds like you paid over the odds..... especially if the work wasn't up to scratch.
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Yes it certainly sounds like your daughter was stung, the norm here for dentists is to charge per appointment, 35-40€ wherever you get a filling or a clean, only when there is something exceptional you may pay extra.
I do however know of a dentist in Porto who my wife used to go to and he also took 75€,
I do however know of a dentist in Porto who my wife used to go to and he also took 75€,
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Berlimey, you lot got it cheap
Minimum down here is 50 euros and where I go - but he is a good dentist - is 60 euros.
Minimum down here is 50 euros and where I go - but he is a good dentist - is 60 euros.
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Re: making the move
Yes will have Thai wife,could be a problem though.Thai women especially like mixing with their own,could chatter all day.
As I stated before ,getting fed up in far east and need to get back to somewhere nearer the UK,and Portugal seems to fit the bill. Spain a bit too much up its own backside as far as I can judge and did take a month taking it all in a couple of years ago
Would appreciate advice on getting her into Portugal,but more importantly ,the prospect of her getting a job. I do give her a fair bit,but would like her to find a job to get her busy. I know jobs there are near impossible ,but she earns next to nothing for a 12 hour day here,will give her some confidence too.
Realise marriage will give her right of passage,did state had wife,should have stated ( will be) but Thai marriages are nothing,ten a penny really. Been with her for ever and a day but will give her an opportunity to further herself,she can speak English quite well..
One question,how long would she await permission and obtaining NI number?
Anything but everything you think is worthwhile me taking on board will be appreciated
Looking at the eastern Algarve, small village or town few miles inland but many people tell me its far too quiet. Would not mind a bit of quietness in my life after this mad house
Thanks anyway,any help much appreciated
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Re: making the move
Would appreciate advice on getting her into Portugal,but more importantly ,the prospect of her getting a job. I do give her a fair bit,but would like her to find a job to get her busy. I know jobs there are near impossible ,but she earns next to nothing for a 12 hour day here,will give her some confidence too.
Realise marriage will give her right of passage,did state had wife,should have stated ( will be) but Thai marriages are nothing,ten a penny really. Been with her for ever and a day but will give her an opportunity to further herself,she can speak English quite well..
One question,how long would she await permission and obtaining NI number?
Anything but everything you think is worthwhile me taking on board will be appreciated
Realise marriage will give her right of passage,did state had wife,should have stated ( will be) but Thai marriages are nothing,ten a penny really. Been with her for ever and a day but will give her an opportunity to further herself,she can speak English quite well..
One question,how long would she await permission and obtaining NI number?
Anything but everything you think is worthwhile me taking on board will be appreciated
There was a thread on the France Forum concerning dogs arriving in Europe from Asia, indicating that particular requirements must be complied with, a special form has to be signed by your local vet before you leave. You'd do well to google the Portuguese Customs before you book your flight. If your flight isn't direct, check with the Customs of your European stopover airport.
Hope this advice which is applicable to France is of some help! Fore-warned is fore-armed!