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Old Jun 20th 2017, 11:04 am   #46
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Certainly in my area that's full of pine and eucalyptus, most of the trees are owned by many individuals, half a hector here or there and so on. Clearing the land by yourself is one thing but having to pay for it is extremely expensive, many cases will be OAP's with a couple hundred euros a month and they can barely eat never mind pay 1000€ to have half a hector cleared every year. Perhaps there should be help some way or another in that respect.
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But it was all summed up in a short editorial in todays Correio da Manha which contained the following phrase in bold type
Incompetence is not a Crime
Unfortunately, whilst I love Portugal and its people, that headline could be taken as a motto.

Incompetence in managing the economy
Incompetence in liberalization and combatting monopolies
Incompetence in consumer rights
Incompetence in marketing national products
Incompetence in Banking
Incompetence in not recognizing their own incompetence......

.... or is it just, "deixe lá"
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Old Jun 20th 2017, 12:21 pm   #48
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Sorry for short reply. short of comms

We got out with dog & cat but ducks died.

Classic jeep survived.

House damaged but repairable.

11 in my village died...... our losses are minimal compared to many others here

A ****ing disaster for our village...,. everyone is in tears.
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Sorry for short reply. short of comms

We got out with dog & cat but ducks died.

Classic jeep survived.

House damaged but repairable.

11 in my village died...... our losses are minimal compared to many others here

A ****ing disaster for our village...,. everyone is in tears.
Glad to hear from you and that you are OK.
I can't imagine how you're feeling or the atmosphere in your village, poor people.
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Sorry for short reply. short of comms

We got out with dog & cat but ducks died.

Classic jeep survived.

House damaged but repairable.

11 in my village died...... our losses are minimal compared to many others here

A ****ing disaster for our village...,. everyone is in tears.
Terrible, terrible event. My thoughts are with everyone.

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I have just received an email direct from Steve. I am sure he won't mind my posting his words here:

Sorry for short reply .... short of comms.

We're safe & got out with dog & cat. Hse slightly damaged but repairable but ducks all died. 11 people in village perished and all in shock

Our losses are minimal compared to many here


If you would me like to pass any emails from you to his personal address please either pm me or post them here for me to forward.

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Glad to hear from you and that you are OK.
I can't imagine how you're feeling or the atmosphere in your village, poor people.
I am sure we all feel the same.
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Old Jun 20th 2017, 3:22 pm   #53
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Sorry for short reply. short of comms

We got out with dog & cat but ducks died.

Classic jeep survived.

House damaged but repairable.

11 in my village died...... our losses are minimal compared to many others here

A ****ing disaster for our village...,. everyone is in tears.
I am so very sorry for your village mfesharne,condolences to all in this time of grief
.Happy to know that you and your wife and pets survived .

We went to our locaL Bombeiros this morning to offer our condolences there for their fallen comrades. and to find out if they needed anything. Their storage up in Monchique is full with stuff donated last time ,so happily they should be ok for awhile...
I can imagine the horror of the landscape you are viewing right now,as we had it in Monchique last year. Not the grief however. that must be awful... Sterkte.(strength) .. as the Dutch would say.

p.s Can the forum help with anything ?
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Excellent idea!

Moderator - how about a fund to be set up?
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Excellent idea!

Moderator - how about a fund to be set up?
Unfortunately there are so many good causes that BE could become engaged in on a regular basis that it is not something that we can do. However, I know that whenever we have these huge fires in Spain people who wish to help go to the relevant authority to gain the information on how to provide either goods or funds so I suggest that this be attempted.

Good luck with all that you do.

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Portugal fires: Canadair plane crashes while tackling blazes - BBC News
It gets worse (if it can), now one of the Canadair water bombing planes has gone down

There is no news of casualties - they must have done so many sorties over the past few days, I pray that they've escaped unharmed.

Watching here from the UK, but thinking of you all in Portugal. Keep safe.
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There is a Caixa Geral account number into which donations can be sent:
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Portugal fires: Canadair plane crashes while tackling blazes - BBC News
It gets worse (if it can), now one of the Canadair water bombing planes has gone down

There is no news of casualties - they must have done so many sorties over the past few days, I pray that they've escaped unharmed.

Watching here from the UK, but thinking of you all in Portugal. Keep safe.
You know the press need a boot in the mouth, as it turns out this was false! Imagine how the families of crew must have felt seeing what was on the news
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Steve, no words really enough but all the best and good luck to trying to get back to somewhere near normal. Hope you get through....best wishes J
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You know the press need a boot in the mouth, as it turns out this was false! Imagine how the families of crew must have felt seeing what was on the news
I hope it really was false, enough lives have been lost already. It seems they are now suggesting that it was exploding gas bottles......
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