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Old Jul 1st 2017, 10:17 am   #61
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There is a funny side to this (for me anyway). By misreading one of my "subtle" posts (on a different thread) EMR threw insults at me (that I am a brexiter AND a leftie). In fairness he did apologise though.
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Other forums I belong to, censor the bad language and then ban those who continue using it, or are otherwise offensive.

It helps these poorly educated people expand their vocabulary.
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Other forums I belong to, censor the bad language and then ban those who continue using it, or are otherwise offensive.

It helps these poorly educated people expand their vocabulary.
The BE forum does seem to be accepting of bad language and personal insults.
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Perhaps I should have said "in practice" is accepting. I like BE as one can get different points of views , and views form Expats who have actual experience in different locations. I have just accepted that bad language ( often the word spelled with a few ** as if that changes anything), personal insults, impoliteness, and often excruciating political correctness exhibiting intolerance of any non-conventional opinions, is part of the BE community.
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Perhaps I should have said "in practice" is accepting. I like BE as one can get different points of views , and views form Expats who have actual experience in different locations. I have just accepted that bad language ( often the word spelled with a few ** as if that changes anything), personal insults, impoliteness, and often excruciating political correctness exhibiting intolerance of any non-conventional opinions, is part of the BE community.
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Perhaps I should have said "in practice" is accepting. I like BE as one can get different points of views , and views form Expats who have actual experience in different locations. I have just accepted that bad language ( often the word spelled with a few ** as if that changes anything), personal insults, impoliteness, and often excruciating political correctness exhibiting intolerance of any non-conventional opinions, is part of the BE community.
The problem is in the definition regarding personal insults because regarding the rules it pertains to things such as "you are an idiot" etc and we react accordingly. However, some members think that "that idea is idiotic" is an insult but we would not intervene in this case. Also some seem to believe that if a person disagrees with them they are making a personal insult but they are not. Impoliteness seems to be the norm but that does not mean that it is acceptable. I have never understood why people think that it is alright to be so obnoxious in pixels when they would not necessarily talk to a person face to face in the same manner.

The system should automatically remove many of the swear words which is why people use the **** method but personally I do not accept this and if I spot it I will edit the post.

Some areas of BE are more tolerant than others, for example in Take it Outside where people express their views in a stronger manner than they might on other parts of BE.

If members see any posts that break the rules I would request that they report it because then the mods and super mods can deal with it appropriately.

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Also some seem to believe that if a person disagrees with them they are making a personal insult but they are not.
That is so true.
I always try to be polite online but I once have a woman have a right go at me in a Facebook group, I re-read what I'd written and I still didn't know what I said to upset her so much
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I find it difficult to understand why people behave so badly when away from the UK. Maybe it is group pressure, maybe alcohol or maybe due the freedom from their normal restraints.

Here in my area in Spain we are not really affected as there are few Brits who holiday here but I still get asked about it by locals who visit other areas. The favourite questions from the younger people are:- Why do English girls not wear bras and insist on flashing their breasts? Why do English people get so drunk? Why are they so sexually permissive? Why are they always so aggressive?

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That is so true.
I always try to be polite online but I once have a woman have a right go at me in a Facebook group, I re-read what I'd written and I still didn't know what I said to upset her so much
Some people are mega touchy.
Sometimes we have no idea why we have touched a nerve. An innocent remark can spark a painful reaction for another person. Also it can be that the person misread what was written.

Edit: An example:- Big row in a family when a teenager received a letter from her female friend and on the envelope she had written "fantastic origami". It took a long time to discover that the father had had misread it and thought that it said "fantastic orgasm".

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The problem is in the definition regarding personal insults because regarding the rules it pertains to things such as "you are an idiot" etc and we react accordingly. However, some members think that "that idea is idiotic" is an insult but we would not intervene in this case. Also some seem to believe that if a person disagrees with them they are making a personal insult but they are not. Impoliteness seems to be the norm but that does not mean that it is acceptable. I have never understood why people think that it is alright to be so obnoxious in pixels when they would not necessarily talk to a person face to face in the same manner.

The system should automatically remove many of the swear words which is why people use the **** method but personally I do not accept this and if I spot it I will edit the post.

Some areas of BE are more tolerant than others, for example in Take it Outside where people express their views in a stronger manner than they might on other parts of BE.

If members see any posts that break the rules I would request that they report it because then the mods and super mods can deal with it appropriately.

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Thanks for taking the time to explain. As on some threads some of the objectionable behavior so common I just accept that the moderators ( on some because they to appear agree so strongly with the ideological views of the offenders apparently, perhaps that is why they accept)monitor the threads as they see fit. As I don't know anyone socially or professionally who behaves in such a way just a surprise to me, no big deal.

I teach one class online at the university level, the first time a student acts in such a manner they are told repetition will result in dismissal from the class, usually keeps most in control.

On one thread there is one person who posts routinely using the *** for bad language, and almost viciously goes after those who disagree. Once I asked nicely whether that in itself wasn't intolerance and impoliteness, but was told that people who disagreed with his point of view deserved such words and comments. Kind of hilarious..

Not that I haven't heard such language, but I would have thought in a public forum of supposedly tolerant and intelligent individuals it would have no place. Seems it is a minefield open debate in a world of hyper-sensitive, ideologically fanatic individuals.
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I find it difficult to understand why people behave so badly when away from the UK. Maybe it is group pressure, maybe alcohol or maybe due the freedom from their normal restraints.

Here in my area in Spain we are not really affected as there are few Brits who holiday here but I still get asked about it by locals who visit other areas. The favourite questions from the younger people are:- Why do English girls not wear bras and insist on flashing their breasts? Why do English people get so drunk? Why are they so sexually permissive? Why are they always so aggressive?

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I recently visited Croatia and spoke to some Spaniards on holiday who said the same thing. Speaking to Croatians who rented properties they said they asked the young British about their drunken behavior and were told " Well beer is so cheap here". I have never seen a Croatian drunk and yelling in the street, when their is some drunk on the streets almost invariably it is a Brit.
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I find it difficult to understand why people behave so badly when away from the UK. Maybe it is group pressure, maybe alcohol or maybe due the freedom from their normal restraints.

Here in my area in Spain we are not really affected as there are few Brits who holiday here but I still get asked about it by locals who visit other areas. The favourite questions from the younger people are:- Why do English girls not wear bras and insist on flashing their breasts? Why do English people get so drunk? Why are they so sexually permissive? Why are they always so aggressive?

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Their behaviour abroad is also their normal behaviour when back in the U
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