Driving Portuguese plated car on uk driving licence
Jan 20th 2018, 10:14 am
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Driving Portuguese plated car on uk driving licence
My friend was fined for not having 'the white paper' to go with her uk licence. She was driving a Portuguese plated car and was asked if she owned a house here. She does, but she is NOT a resident. She just comes on holiday. Was it right or wrong to fine her?? Was it a misunderstanding about residency??
Jan 20th 2018, 11:25 am
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Sounds like it.
Mutual recognition of driving licences across the EU means there is no need to observe any formalities with regard to driving licences unless you change your country of residence. Portuguese law reflects this.
Was your friend asked how long she had been on holiday?
Mutual recognition of driving licences across the EU means there is no need to observe any formalities with regard to driving licences unless you change your country of residence. Portuguese law reflects this.
Was your friend asked how long she had been on holiday?
Jan 20th 2018, 11:46 am
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Sounds like it.
Mutual recognition of driving licences across the EU means there is no need to observe any formalities with regard to driving licences unless you change your country of residence. Portuguese law reflects this.
Was your friend asked how long she had been on holiday?
Mutual recognition of driving licences across the EU means there is no need to observe any formalities with regard to driving licences unless you change your country of residence. Portuguese law reflects this.
Was your friend asked how long she had been on holiday?
Jan 20th 2018, 11:59 am
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I should say so.
Presumably paying the fine isn't the end of the matter but has been issued with the secondary intent of getting her to register the licence, which, as a non resident, she obviously shouldn't do.
If they insist, perhaps they can quote the law to her which says she is obliged to. I certainly can't find one and I've had a thorough look around, so it would be very handy to know for future reference. It definitely doesn't sound right to me.
Presumably paying the fine isn't the end of the matter but has been issued with the secondary intent of getting her to register the licence, which, as a non resident, she obviously shouldn't do.
If they insist, perhaps they can quote the law to her which says she is obliged to. I certainly can't find one and I've had a thorough look around, so it would be very handy to know for future reference. It definitely doesn't sound right to me.
Jan 20th 2018, 12:12 pm
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I should say so.
Presumably paying the fine isn't the end of the matter but has been issued with the secondary intent of getting her to register the licence, which, as a non resident, she obviously shouldn't do.
If they insist, perhaps they can quote the law to her which says she is obliged to. I certainly can't find one and I've had a thorough look around, so it would be very handy to know for future reference. It definitely doesn't sound right to me.
Presumably paying the fine isn't the end of the matter but has been issued with the secondary intent of getting her to register the licence, which, as a non resident, she obviously shouldn't do.
If they insist, perhaps they can quote the law to her which says she is obliged to. I certainly can't find one and I've had a thorough look around, so it would be very handy to know for future reference. It definitely doesn't sound right to me.
Jan 20th 2018, 12:35 pm
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This white paper for 5€ is a complete mystery to me. Where is she supposed to get it from?
The registration of the licence with the IMT (PT equivalent of the DVLA), which residents must do, is free, as far as I know but they do issue a document for you to carry around. It's not applicable for non residents though.
The registration of the licence with the IMT (PT equivalent of the DVLA), which residents must do, is free, as far as I know but they do issue a document for you to carry around. It's not applicable for non residents though.
Jan 20th 2018, 12:59 pm
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This white paper for 5€ is a complete mystery to me. Where is she supposed to get it from?
The registration of the licence with the IMT (PT equivalent of the DVLA), which residents must do, is free, as far as I know but they do issue a document for you to carry around. It's not applicable for non residents though.
The registration of the licence with the IMT (PT equivalent of the DVLA), which residents must do, is free, as far as I know but they do issue a document for you to carry around. It's not applicable for non residents though.
Jan 20th 2018, 2:02 pm
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I too have been asked for the additional UK licence information but it is related to penalty points etc, ie as the points or disqualification are not on the licence the owner may be banned but it does not show unless the additional information is presented. Getting a check code and printing off the info was required.
as in DVLA
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
as in DVLA
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
Jan 20th 2018, 4:34 pm
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I too have been asked for the additional UK licence information but it is related to penalty points etc, ie as the points or disqualification are not on the licence the owner may be banned but it does not show unless the additional information is presented. Getting a check code and printing off the info was required.
as in DVLA
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
as in DVLA
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
I was always led to believe this was legally correct in Portugal, (at least pre-Brexit), but now your post has got me wondering.
Have the rules regarding driving a PT car on a UK licence changed, or is this just another example of over-zealous traffic cop making up his own rules?
Jan 20th 2018, 4:51 pm
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Providing your GB driving licence is valid then there is no obligation to swap it for a Portuguese licence, even if you are resident in Portugal.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...y/index_en.htm
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...y/index_en.htm
Jan 20th 2018, 5:00 pm
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I also have a PT registered car at my PT holiday home, which I drive on my UK licence when I am visiting Portugal, (I am a UK Resident incidentally).
I was always led to believe this was legally correct in Portugal, (at least pre-Brexit), but now your post has got me wondering.
Have the rules regarding driving a PT car on a UK licence changed, or is this just another example of over-zealous traffic cop making up his own rules?
I was always led to believe this was legally correct in Portugal, (at least pre-Brexit), but now your post has got me wondering.
Have the rules regarding driving a PT car on a UK licence changed, or is this just another example of over-zealous traffic cop making up his own rules?
Jan 20th 2018, 7:06 pm
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Hopefully, this is the current situation. However, on my next PT trip I will take along a copy of my DVLA (Licence) printout - just in case!!
Jan 20th 2018, 8:07 pm
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Jan 21st 2018, 7:12 am
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And I can confirm that you must be registered as resident in order to register the licence with the authorities - it's one of the documents they now insist on seeing :
As cartas de condução emitidas por países pertencentes � União Europeia e ao Espaço Económico Europeu (EEE - Islândia, Liechtenstein e Noruega) são válidas em Portugal, até ao términus da validade inscrita no título de condução.
No entanto, os condutores que estabeleçam residência em Portugal têm o dever de informar o Serviço Regional ou Distrital do IMT da sua área de residência, num prazo de 60 dias, sob pena de incorrer em infração.
Assim, neste caso o condutor deve dirigir-se aos balcões do IMT com os seguintes documentos:
•Formulário Modelo 13 IMT ;
•Fotocópia do título de condução e exibição do original deste documento;
•Apresentação do documento de identificação e comprovativo de autorização residência em território nacional
No entanto, os condutores que estabeleçam residência em Portugal têm o dever de informar o Serviço Regional ou Distrital do IMT da sua área de residência, num prazo de 60 dias, sob pena de incorrer em infração.
Assim, neste caso o condutor deve dirigir-se aos balcões do IMT com os seguintes documentos:
•Formulário Modelo 13 IMT ;
•Fotocópia do título de condução e exibição do original deste documento;
•Apresentação do documento de identificação e comprovativo de autorização residência em território nacional
Jan 21st 2018, 7:18 am
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Certainly sounds like it to me.
And I can confirm that you must be registered as resident in order to register the licence with the authorities - it's one of the documents they now insist on seeing :
http://www.imt-ip.pt/sites/IMTT/Port...coEuropeu.aspx
And I can confirm that you must be registered as resident in order to register the licence with the authorities - it's one of the documents they now insist on seeing :
http://www.imt-ip.pt/sites/IMTT/Port...coEuropeu.aspx
Thanks so much. Wonder if it's worth her going to GNR for a refund. So far it's cost her €60 for the fine, plus a twenty mile trip to Faro for her hubby to get both their licences registered at €5 each!!