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Old Feb 15th 2005, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by ronniecat25
Hi - I'm Clare Ronnie's wife - I did some searching on the internet today on Murray Bridge - got a fairt bit of info, it actually looks like a very nice place, rural but not too far from civilisation!!. It is just south east of adelaide hills near a place called Hahndorf, which there is also a fair bit of info on the net about. There didnt seem to be very much property fro rent or to buy in Murray Bridge, but it's one of the places where they provide you with a house anyway. Hope this is of help.

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hi clare, try this www.wilmap.com.au/samaps/murraybr.html. zoom in on map 2 follow the swanport road south, on your left is ridge road, this the goverment housing area most of the prison officers from Mobilong Gaol ,live in this area and think most of the police and paramedics......a nice place to live .... mm
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Originally Posted by 19saturn
Any Southerner's on the Malaysia MH1 flight out of Heathrow on 13th Connecting with MH139 at KL? We could meet up with the Northern group. KL airport is pretty dull if you've spent more than 5 minutes there. There's a central cafe section that would make a good meeting point. Its handy to take out some Malay cash to avoid damage to your plastic friend. Sorry not telling you to suck eggs but I forgot last time I was over and ran up a large bill on the plastic. I'll be the lost and confused looking bloke

Michelle, did Damo give you the dets of the place he found on Semaphore Beach, that sounded ok. I think Martyn has his mobile number.
Sent an email to Adelaide Beach Caravan Park on Semaphore Beach, to get some info, turns out the charges are per day! Working out weekly rates were $542 or $593 based on two adults.

Back to the drawing board I think

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Sent an email to Adelaide Beach Caravan Park on Semaphore Beach, to get some info, turns out the charges are per day! Working out weekly rates were $542 or $593 based on two adults.

Back to the drawing board I think

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worst time of year to hit town,what with EASTER, end of summer, PLUS the huge V8 super car race coming up,most places are booked solid,and asking top dollar, give it a month and you with negotiation can 1/2 that rate ........... mm
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Hi Ronnie & Clare

We also had an animal and have made enquiries ... have had some mixed feedback re care of the animals whilst in transit, exercise, meals, drugs(!) and general welfare. (Professional) animal carers have told us that the animals don't get exercised, are sometimes drugged and it can be very stressful. Our dog can't handle going to the pooch parlour or the vets, so we accept that (knowing him) he'll suffer mass hairloss, fret and/or become someone else's best friend whilst travelling and not want to know us.

Cruel or kind ... we've decided to rehome him ... it is a toughie though.

Ang & Mick
Im sure this information is very much like the contradicting info that we have recieved throughout this recruitment drive, you cant believe anything really until it happens and try not to think the worst. H and I have decided (and would not even have concidered the other), that we are taking all of our cherubs with us. We have a huge weimeraner, who will no doubt cost us £3000 to get over and 2 cats. One of our cats is about 11 years old and runs away when i pick up keys etc, so i am sure he is more of a scaredly CAT (get it?) that anyones cat or dog. He was rescued and abandoned once, im not doing it again. Your animals are used to you and love you, why take that away from them for the sake of a possible 36 hour trauma. I had an old english sheepdog (she is dead now bless her and not because of the move) but we bought her back from Germany, and she spent 6 months in quarantine, and she would pull you over to run away from a crisp packet blowing up the road, so again I bet you'd be hard pushed to fine another dog that scared. She came out of it OK as im sure your animals will. The last thing the animal airlines want is animal deaths on their hands, not very good for business i would think.

I am petrified at the thought of my animals being taken away from me for the journey, but at least i will have them at the other end. I have spoken to a breeder of siamese cats and she said not to worry about it, because once on the plane he will no doubt settle down and go to sleep. They are not like humans where they constantly have different thoughts in their heads, they get used to a situation and settle.

Apart from the cost where we are having to sell a motorcycle to fund it we have no other concideration. Thay are part of the family and will be coming with us. We can replace the Motorcycle we could not replace our pets, as they are for life.

Sorry to harp on, but i do feel strongly about this, and believe that you should really concider taking them. The experience may even make them toughen up abit.

Have a ring round and talk to some animal carriers, one posted and recommended is Animal Airlines, 01625 827414 and speak to TONY, take advise from him and make the decision then. If you are taking a dog, I would get him/her to the vets or visit yourself and find out exactly what you need to do, as there is one injjection that they should not have 6 months prior to flying as they need to be tested for immunity. This cost will be around £200. The cats only need health check and de flea-ing and worming at a certain date before the flight. Check with your vet.

This process wont be easy and another thing for the partner left behind ti-ing things up to have to worry about but if you get it sorted now it shouldnt be too bad.

It will be worth it in the end if you love them. Would you leave your kids? No thought not, they are part of the family too.

Coral and H

PS Animals are not drugged when on planes as it can lead to massive heart failure,and therefore is definately not recommened.
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Hi pool team and pathfinders,

Still new to all this, but its been great reading everyone's comments! Seems like it will be a great place to trade info.....

For those of you in the pool and you are looking for some sort of reassurance, when I put my medical form in with an audiogram, it showed some sort of hearing loss in one ear (WOT!! I hear you all say- cheeky ) anyway the point is, that if they were looking to get rid of people or cut down on numbers, they would of binned me straight away. As it is, and after SA pol in Adelaide had seen all the forms, they have asked me to see an ENT specialist and get a report done.. (more money!!!!) Im sure you will agree with me they wouldnt waste any of their time or resources processing my application, when they have an easy get out, if there is pressure on them.

So on a happy note, heres hoping for those other courses.... Im sure it will happen

As for the rural postings, im up for anything and they get extra pay and some sort of housing contribution for being in the sticks... poss similar to our SPP's for non desirable jobs.

If anyone starts a new thread, either for families or for those in the pool, make sure we all know about it!

Hope to talk to you all some more.

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Originally Posted by 19saturn
Any Southerner's on the Malaysia MH1 flight out of Heathrow on 13th Connecting with MH139 at KL? We could meet up with the Northern group. KL airport is pretty dull if you've spent more than 5 minutes there. There's a central cafe section that would make a good meeting point. Its handy to take out some Malay cash to avoid damage to your plastic friend. Sorry not telling you to suck eggs but I forgot last time I was over and ran up a large bill on the plastic. I'll be the lost and confused looking bloke

Michelle, did Damo give you the dets of the place he found on Semaphore Beach, that sounded ok. I think Martyn has his mobile number.

If that's the 22.00 flight on the 13th - Geoff will be on it - are some of you guys meeting up at Heathrow beforehand - let us know if you are! by the way there's a new thread SAPOL 60 which might be useful to use as well as this one.

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Im sure this information is very much like the contradicting info that we have recieved throughout this recruitment drive, you cant believe anything really until it happens and try not to think the worst. H and I have decided (and would not even have concidered the other), that we are taking all of our cherubs with us. We have a huge weimeraner, who will no doubt cost us £3000 to get over and 2 cats. One of our cats is about 11 years old and runs away when i pick up keys etc, so i am sure he is more of a scaredly CAT (get it?) that anyones cat or dog. He was rescued and abandoned once, im not doing it again. Your animals are used to you and love you, why take that away from them for the sake of a possible 36 hour trauma. I had an old english sheepdog (she is dead now bless her and not because of the move) but we bought her back from Germany, and she spent 6 months in quarantine, and she would pull you over to run away from a crisp packet blowing up the road, so again I bet you'd be hard pushed to fine another dog that scared. She came out of it OK as im sure your animals will. The last thing the animal airlines want is animal deaths on their hands, not very good for business i would think.

I am petrified at the thought of my animals being taken away from me for the journey, but at least i will have them at the other end. I have spoken to a breeder of siamese cats and she said not to worry about it, because once on the plane he will no doubt settle down and go to sleep. They are not like humans where they constantly have different thoughts in their heads, they get used to a situation and settle.

Apart from the cost where we are having to sell a motorcycle to fund it we have no other concideration. Thay are part of the family and will be coming with us. We can replace the Motorcycle we could not replace our pets, as they are for life.

Sorry to harp on, but i do feel strongly about this, and believe that you should really concider taking them. The experience may even make them toughen up abit.

Have a ring round and talk to some animal carriers, one posted and recommended is Animal Airlines, 01625 827414 and speak to TONY, take advise from him and make the decision then. If you are taking a dog, I would get him/her to the vets or visit yourself and find out exactly what you need to do, as there is one injjection that they should not have 6 months prior to flying as they need to be tested for immunity. This cost will be around £200. The cats only need health check and de flea-ing and worming at a certain date before the flight. Check with your vet.

This process wont be easy and another thing for the partner left behind ti-ing things up to have to worry about but if you get it sorted now it shouldnt be too bad.

It will be worth it in the end if you love them. Would you leave your kids? No thought not, they are part of the family too.

Coral and H

PS Animals are not drugged when on planes as it can lead to massive heart failure,and therefore is definately not recommened.
Hi Coral & H

Totally understand you views. You clearly love your animals. Someone else did advise us about the injection and unfortunately our dog had had this prior to being informed about it. So we're probably in the siutation now where he will need 6 months clearance before travelling anyway.

I also don't intend to be left behind to tie up any loose ends as I have two children - one who is two years old and who will, no doubt, make flying the most unbearable experience ever (and not just for me!!!)

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[QUOTE=A&M]Hi Coral & H

Anyone know which injection it is - going to vets today and don't want to end up stuck here for 6 months just because a forgetful vet sticks the wrong needle in the wrong place!! (I'll stick something up his wrong place if he does).

Hear, hear re. taking the animals - ours are thirteen and ten and both rescued dogs - I'm not doing that to them for the 2nd time in their lives! The hold is dark and heated and once the plane is airborne animals tend to settle and sleep for most of the journey. I'm much more confident and at ease with it all re how they will be treated having spoken to animal airlines....

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Hi Coral & H

Anyone know which injection it is - going to vets today and don't want to end up stuck here for 6 months just because a forgetful vet sticks the wrong needle in the wrong place!! (I'll stick something up his wrong place if he does).

Hear, hear re. taking the animals - ours are thirteen and ten and both rescued dogs - I'm not doing that to them for the 2nd time in their lives! The hold is dark and heated and once the plane is airborne animals tend to settle and sleep for most of the journey. I'm much more confident and at ease with it all re how they will be treated having spoken to animal airlines....

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Anyone know what happens about toilet facilities during the flight? (for animals not humans!)
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Anyone know what happens about toilet facilities during the flight? (for animals not humans!)

Sorry to tell you but they have to do it in their accommodation. Thats why they line the base with papers etc....
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Hi Coral & H

Anyone know which injection it is - going to vets today and don't want to end up stuck here for 6 months just because a forgetful vet sticks the wrong needle in the wrong place!! (I'll stick something up his wrong place if he does).

Hear, hear re. taking the animals - ours are thirteen and ten and both rescued dogs - I'm not doing that to them for the 2nd time in their lives! The hold is dark and heated and once the plane is airborne animals tend to settle and sleep for most of the journey. I'm much more confident and at ease with it all re how they will be treated having spoken to animal airlines....

Judes
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Yes it is LEPTOSPIRA interrogans serovar canicola, ( and i remembered that from memory....not), check with your vet, but i believe because they do not have it in OZ they do not want our animals bringing it over, hence the blood test negative result needed. You need to contact Dept for envionment, food and rural affairs....DEFRA, they should send you samples of certificates needed. The tests need to be performed within 30 days of flight and then another not more that 14 days from the last. It is all very confusing and its best to speak to your vet, they will know what is needed. There are about 3 tests needed for dogs. although we came away from the vets a bit more in the know for the grand price of £25.00 for 10 mins work (definately in the wrong trade) its still confusing. Dont waste any time if you are all going a s a family.

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reading thru some of the posts here about pets...

my parents moved over to perth last may. they had two shih tzus, but one was such an old lady they waited for her to pass on before the left. so. they were left with one shih tzu, who is the most paranoid dog i have ever known, who was totally unused to being on her own as they got her a few years after the elder one. honestto god, she has 'issues' with everything, and being massive animal lovers there was no way she was being left behind, plus she was so weird that she would have been in a state being re-homed!
i know my mum was worried about her going on the plane and eing in quarantine, but had no need to - polly came through absolutely fine, and in fact came out with far less issues than she went with! she wouldnt even wee on concrete before she went - now she cares not a bit! she hates the vet, the car, water, plates, bowls, and was getting to the point where mum was practically having to hand feed her - so she thought she may starve..

they are not drugged on plane as the crew needs to check they are ok (wonder what they would do if they werent?!) and can cause probs as someone else has mentioned. i was worried shed get stolen in singapore airort as shes beautiful, but that went ok too...

anyway. she was in quarantine in perth, and my mum saw her a few times. she said the staff were really lovely, they exercise them in an enclosed area and give them attention too. i cant stress too much that my mum is such a softy, and she wouldnt have said they were all lovely if they werent. they are all government run, so i wouldnt think condtions vary too much - and since owners are allowed to see them and walk them i cant imagine theyd let you in if the places were horrible and the staff uncaring.

polly will now drink from a bowl, eat on her own, walk on concrete (she was starting to have issues with that too!) and wee wherever she likes outside! i have a rescue moggie who follows me round like a puppy and 'talks' to me and is a bit scared of everyone else, so i (we are in the pool so hopefully) will be taking her and our other mog - yes they will be stressed by the take off and landing, but they wont comprehend that they are 30,000 feet up, and obviously the 30 days q will be a pain for them, but i am quite sure ours would rather have a short time of that than have to settle in with new people and ways of life. they wont know it is only 30 days of course - but nor will they have the concept of it being that length of time, if you get me.

the weather or bugs hasnt caused my mums dogs any probs, she is fighting fit and likes being able to sit out in the evening in the warm, as opposed to getting horribly muddy and damp and smelly. and my cats love lolling about in the sun in summer, so hopefully wouldnt be out murdering local parrots..

just my twopenneth...
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reading thru some of the posts here about pets...

my parents moved over to perth last may. they had two shih tzus, but one was such an old lady they waited for her to pass on before the left. so. they were left with one shih tzu, who is the most paranoid dog i have ever known, who was totally unused to being on her own as they got her a few years after the elder one. honestto god, she has 'issues' with everything, and being massive animal lovers there was no way she was being left behind, plus she was so weird that she would have been in a state being re-homed!
i know my mum was worried about her going on the plane and eing in quarantine, but had no need to - polly came through absolutely fine, and in fact came out with far less issues than she went with! she wouldnt even wee on concrete before she went - now she cares not a bit! she hates the vet, the car, water, plates, bowls, and was getting to the point where mum was practically having to hand feed her - so she thought she may starve..

they are not drugged on plane as the crew needs to check they are ok (wonder what they would do if they werent?!) and can cause probs as someone else has mentioned. i was worried shed get stolen in singapore airort as shes beautiful, but that went ok too...

anyway. she was in quarantine in perth, and my mum saw her a few times. she said the staff were really lovely, they exercise them in an enclosed area and give them attention too. i cant stress too much that my mum is such a softy, and she wouldnt have said they were all lovely if they werent. they are all government run, so i wouldnt think condtions vary too much - and since owners are allowed to see them and walk them i cant imagine theyd let you in if the places were horrible and the staff uncaring.

polly will now drink from a bowl, eat on her own, walk on concrete (she was starting to have issues with that too!) and wee wherever she likes outside! i have a rescue moggie who follows me round like a puppy and 'talks' to me and is a bit scared of everyone else, so i (we are in the pool so hopefully) will be taking her and our other mog - yes they will be stressed by the take off and landing, but they wont comprehend that they are 30,000 feet up, and obviously the 30 days q will be a pain for them, but i am quite sure ours would rather have a short time of that than have to settle in with new people and ways of life. they wont know it is only 30 days of course - but nor will they have the concept of it being that length of time, if you get me.

the weather or bugs hasnt caused my mums dogs any probs, she is fighting fit and likes being able to sit out in the evening in the warm, as opposed to getting horribly muddy and damp and smelly. and my cats love lolling about in the sun in summer, so hopefully wouldnt be out murdering local parrots..

just my twopenneth...
Hi,

I've shipped a cat and dog by air before (admittedly not a 12 hour flight). Cat arrived covered in sh*t and grumpy but nothing that a hour or so didn't fix at the new house. Dog happy as anything having made friends with everyone. My understanding about drugging is the same, (bad for cats, bad for checking). 2 yr olds are OK if the computer games work. Booze is the best drug for the passenger (draw straws on looking after 2yr old).

All this talk of KL airport - I can just smell that musty triopical air again. Ah - the wonder-lust kicking in ....
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reading thru some of the posts here about pets...

my parents moved over to perth last may. they had two shih tzus, but one was such an old lady they waited for her to pass on before the left. so. they were left with one shih tzu, who is the most paranoid dog i have ever known, who was totally unused to being on her own as they got her a few years after the elder one. honestto god, she has 'issues' with everything, and being massive animal lovers there was no way she was being left behind, plus she was so weird that she would have been in a state being re-homed!
i know my mum was worried about her going on the plane and eing in quarantine, but had no need to - polly came through absolutely fine, and in fact came out with far less issues than she went with! she wouldnt even wee on concrete before she went - now she cares not a bit! she hates the vet, the car, water, plates, bowls, and was getting to the point where mum was practically having to hand feed her - so she thought she may starve..

they are not drugged on plane as the crew needs to check they are ok (wonder what they would do if they werent?!) and can cause probs as someone else has mentioned. i was worried shed get stolen in singapore airort as shes beautiful, but that went ok too...

anyway. she was in quarantine in perth, and my mum saw her a few times. she said the staff were really lovely, they exercise them in an enclosed area and give them attention too. i cant stress too much that my mum is such a softy, and she wouldnt have said they were all lovely if they werent. they are all government run, so i wouldnt think condtions vary too much - and since owners are allowed to see them and walk them i cant imagine theyd let you in if the places were horrible and the staff uncaring.

polly will now drink from a bowl, eat on her own, walk on concrete (she was starting to have issues with that too!) and wee wherever she likes outside! i have a rescue moggie who follows me round like a puppy and 'talks' to me and is a bit scared of everyone else, so i (we are in the pool so hopefully) will be taking her and our other mog - yes they will be stressed by the take off and landing, but they wont comprehend that they are 30,000 feet up, and obviously the 30 days q will be a pain for them, but i am quite sure ours would rather have a short time of that than have to settle in with new people and ways of life. they wont know it is only 30 days of course - but nor will they have the concept of it being that length of time, if you get me.

the weather or bugs hasnt caused my mums dogs any probs, she is fighting fit and likes being able to sit out in the evening in the warm, as opposed to getting horribly muddy and damp and smelly. and my cats love lolling about in the sun in summer, so hopefully wouldnt be out murdering local parrots..

just my twopenneth...
Alright you lot I get the message. We will bring the dogs now leave me alone!!!!!!!
I was thinking out loud, wont do that again.
I tell you what though if my dog shits on the newspaper on the flight I hope there are no passengers on board cos the smell will take the plane down. His breath is bad enough.

As an aside. I was chatting to Chris who is also from Gatwick. He mentioned the comment about the residency. Did anyone else pick this up.
The question asked was; [B]what happens if we fail any part of the course or probation as far as our residency goes, do we get kicked out?

Linda discussed this with the other two and said.... No, we will honour the contract for two years.
Does this mean that if we arrive we are basically in OZ for good.

Anyone hear differently.
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No Ronniecat, your ears were working purrfectly, that or there were 300 severe cases of blocked lugs! But that point also raised an issue for us later on when we were digesting all that had been said an done...The big (and rather morbid) what if.......
What if Mr Muppet gets badly injured (or worse) on duty . Where does that leave us residentially speaking if its within the initial 2 years? I know its not something most would even want to think about let alone get definitive answers on, but it cropped up nonetheless. So, we emailed Scott this evening. Might get a reply in a week or so!!!
On a less moody note, is anyone going on Monday 14th from LHR? Would be glad of some moral support at airport whilst mutually sobbing into an outrageously expensive coffee!

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