scot47

https://rtd.rt.com/films/fallen-angels/

is that a fair picture of the seedier side of the Philippines ?

mikemike

Who Knows anything for certain.


As for fatherless children in the Philippines then the locals have a far higher run rate.

AC is not reflective of the Philippines. The USA bases closed in 1992, 25 years ago!! Yet AC continues to operate much as before but on a far smaller scale

moneypenny20

Is it any different to the seedy side of every single country in the world?

YuNick

the doco is terribly sad. I hope some of these "fathers" are shamed into doing something to help.

morpeth

I think what is different in AC is the extent - I don't know of anywhere in USA or UK one would find a similar situation, I had to drive through AC quite a few years ago, if anything this film seems to me actually to underplay the situation, plus one of key issues is simply the incredible corrupt mismanagement of the country that results in the women in places like AC, or working overseas, supporting a fair percentage of the economy. There are parts of Manila's bar scene with equally reprehensible situations.

mikemike

Perhaps the local fathers would feel the same? There far more local bars in Ac and the Philippines. Wonder why they were not included in this 'documentary'.

Consider the source and then ask why?

Something to to do with emotional squeeze for fund raising when only a small part , if any, of those funds will be used for purpose?

The reason why there is no high profile places in the UK or USA is that there is a state safety net that ensures people in such a position do not get left out of society. To suggest that there are no high profile red light districts anywhere else on the planet is perhaps being highly selective.

We do not have to go far from our front door to see many homeless children, many who could not tell you who one or both of their parents are. This is not a bar scene zone.

morpeth

Good point about the safety net issue, perhaps hard for those who have not travelled to countries like the Philippines , Indonesia or other such places to understand not just the lack of a safety net but the simple economics of such poverty.

An example of the safety net issue I believe can be underscored by the differences between the US and the UK. The UK has much more of a basic safety net in terms of medical care and housing benefits, and longevity of the dole. Just anecdotal evidence,At least in towns I am familiar with in US and UK with similar economic situations, the difference in the availability of a safety net made a difference.

bestvue

The sad truth not only in AC but in most parts of the Phils is the staggering amount of below poverty families with hugh amounts of children and the "half hearted" fight of authorities to introduce contraceptives. Some thing the RC church is against. The vast majority of our Filipino friends being RC. Something I think we can safety blame on the Spanish "pastors" who also contributed to the lighter skin complex the locals have.

Simon1983

I agree that the church is very much to blame here - lack of contraceptives, abortion being frowned upon, many kids being seen as a sign of vitality.

I recently watched a documentary about human trafficking in the Philippines.

A campaigner had persuaded Manny Pacquiao to put forward a bill to make the laws much stricter on human trafficking. Before the reading, the house was packed with senators/lawmakers/politicians who were debating an anti-abortion law. They were saying "Life is sacred". But when the anti-human-trafficking law came up, everyone left.

It seemed life was only sacred in the womb!

spouse of scouse

I don't suppose having a president who jokes about gang raping women and spanking female police officers helps much.

Millhouse

Of course, the other way of looking at this is that she sold a night to the guy. A long term commitment was not part of the transaction - it was her risk. No protection was used, and no birth control. At least half of that problem was in her control.

Millhouse

why legislate against something that makes you money?

mikemike

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There is no such thing as sex education. Many are sent off the farm with mud between their toes and no understanding of how and why they get pregnant. Education here for the public sector is barely elementary. I seem to spend a lot of time correcting text book errors for my two in fee paying upper end schools. what chance for those in the public sector.

No protection, no birth control. This is the Philippines where until last month they could not access any form of birth control, without breaking the law.

That the event was a transaction, does not mean anything. The culture of many SE Asian countries is highly transactional. Not much evidence of doing anything for the public good etc.

mikemike

They already have legislation , it comes under the anti human trafficking law which forbids the movement of people for economic gain. So the government ignores this be selling its people like cattle for overseas employment for economic gain.