Go Back   British Expats / Living & Moving Abroad / Far East and Asia / Philippines

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Aug 16th 2017, 6:22 am   #166
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 587
mikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond reputemikemike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

You say you were in the Uk with your child and then left for the Philippines last year? Was your child born in the UK?, if not how did you take your child to the UK?
mikemike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18th 2017, 6:53 am   #167
Just Joined
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 11
Kathdudette is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemike View Post
You say you were in the Uk with your child and then left for the Philippines last year? Was your child born in the UK?, if not how did you take your child to the UK?
I was in the Uk when I got pregnant. I gave birth in the Philippines.
Kathdudette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 8th 2017, 8:26 pm   #168
Yhey25 
Just Joined
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 2
Yhey25 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

Hi kathdudette,

If your baby's father is a British citizen, regardless of your marriage status, you can apply for your baby's British passport. Even if the baby was born in the Philippines, as long as the father recognizes and acknowledged the baby and signed the birth certificate. My partner and I have a daughter. We are not married. I conceived in UK but I gave birth in the Philippines. You dont have to apply for a British birth certificate for your baby to get a passport (although that would make the passport application easier, the fee is exorbitant 😱). My baby's British passport got approved even without a British birth certificate.

Things I submitted to apply for a first time British passport application (minor) Overseas :
1. Phil birth certificate from PSA/NSO (the baby's father have signed it too acknowledging that the baby is his)
2. Another valid id of the baby (on here I submitted my baby's Philippine passport. I got her a Phil passport too coz she has dual citizenship. That is given since i am Filipino)
3. My birth certificate from NSO/PSA
4. CENOMAR for me since im not married
5. Marriage Certificate from NSO/PSA for my parents (lola and lolo ng bata sa akin)
6. British birth certificate of my boyfriend
7. Marriage certificate of my bf's parents
8. Birth certificates of my bf's parents (lola and lolo ng bata sa tatay)
9. Baptismal certificate of my baby (coz her birth certificate was late in getting registered)
10. My Philippine passport
11. My bf's British passport
12. Pre-natal and ante-natal (medical records ni baby)
13. Pictures of my bf and i during our trips together (showing that we have spent time together).
14. Pictures of us during baby's baptismal and pictures during our (me,baby and my bf) trips abroad to show that the father has active participation in baby's life. (I was using baby's Philippine passport during that trip).

The British passport application was submitted in June 2017 and it was approved August 2017
Yhey25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 9th 2017, 7:49 pm   #169
Just Joined
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 11
Kathdudette is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yhey25 View Post
Hi kathdudette,

If your baby's father is a British citizen, regardless of your marriage status, you can apply for your baby's British passport. Even if the baby was born in the Philippines, as long as the father recognizes and acknowledged the baby and signed the birth certificate. My partner and I have a daughter. We are not married. I conceived in UK but I gave birth in the Philippines. You dont have to apply for a British birth certificate for your baby to get a passport (although that would make the passport application easier, the fee is exorbitant 😱). My baby's British passport got approved even without a British birth certificate.

Things I submitted to apply for a first time British passport application (minor) Overseas :
1. Phil birth certificate from PSA/NSO (the baby's father have signed it too acknowledging that the baby is his)
2. Another valid id of the baby (on here I submitted my baby's Philippine passport. I got her a Phil passport too coz she has dual citizenship. That is given since i am Filipino)
3. My birth certificate from NSO/PSA
4. CENOMAR for me since im not married
5. Marriage Certificate from NSO/PSA for my parents (lola and lolo ng bata sa akin)
6. British birth certificate of my boyfriend
7. Marriage certificate of my bf's parents
8. Birth certificates of my bf's parents (lola and lolo ng bata sa tatay)
9. Baptismal certificate of my baby (coz her birth certificate was late in getting registered)
10. My Philippine passport
11. My bf's British passport
12. Pre-natal and ante-natal (medical records ni baby)
13. Pictures of my bf and i during our trips together (showing that we have spent time together).
14. Pictures of us during baby's baptismal and pictures during our (me,baby and my bf) trips abroad to show that the father has active participation in baby's life. (I was using baby's Philippine passport during that trip).

The British passport application was submitted in June 2017 and it was approved August 2017
Hi Yhey25,

Thank you for the very detailed response. That's quite a lot of requirements. One thing though, i don't know if you have read it in my previous replies - I am separated from my previous husband which is also a British citizen. We haven't divorced. I'm only going to start the annulment process early next year I hope so with the CENOMAR, I am not sure if I would be able to submit that. If I request one it will show that I am still married. I don't know how they will see that, that's why I am a bit worried. Also my partner's parents are divorce. Do we need to submit their divorce paper?

Thank you.
Kathdudette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 9th 2017, 7:56 pm   #170
Premium Member
 
BritInParis's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Location: Not in Paris
Posts: 8,167
BritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathdudette View Post
Hi Yhey25,

Thank you for the very detailed response. That's quite a lot of requirements. One thing though, i don't know if you have read it in my previous replies - I am separated from my previous husband which is also a British citizen. We haven't divorced. I'm only going to start the annulment process early next year I hope so with the CENOMAR, I am not sure if I would be able to submit that. If I request one it will show that I am still married. I don't know how they will see that, that's why I am a bit worried. Also my partner's parents are divorce. Do we need to submit their divorce paper?

Thank you.
Given that your husband is also a British citizen then providing he was born in the UK then your child will be British by descent through him even if they are biologically the child of your current partner. If you go for consular birth registration then your husband will appear as the father not your partner.
BritInParis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10th 2017, 6:13 am   #171
Just Joined
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 11
Kathdudette is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BritInParis View Post
Given that your husband is also a British citizen then providing he was born in the UK then your child will be British by descent through him even if they are biologically the child of your current partner. If you go for consular birth registration then your husband will appear as the father not your partner.
Hi BritInParis,

When you mean consular birth registration is that registerig through British Embassy? What do you think is best? Register through British Embassy first or try to apply for a passport? (Which means that my partner since he will be coming back this October to visit us for our child's birthday will bring back all the docs to the Uk and have the application in there). Is really me being still married - not separated or annuled would make our child's passport application difficult?

Yes I have read about "my estranged ex husband automatically being the father of my child since we are still married by the time my child was born". But he isn't the one in the birth certificate, he isn't the biological father. It's just because we were married that's why "they assume him to be the father" which is to be honest ludacrous! I mean I think they need to revise this law.

I know this is a bit if a silly comparison but, it's just funny how someobe can go to America give birth there and the child with no American parents can get their citizenship. And in the Uk they will require DNA test etc for unmarried couple. I know each country has their own rules. It's just sad, when someone is actually legit then things are more difficult but for some others that have fraud in mind, it's way easy.

Life eh.
Kathdudette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10th 2017, 8:55 am   #172
Premium Member
 
BritInParis's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Location: Not in Paris
Posts: 8,167
BritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathdudette View Post
Hi BritInParis,

When you mean consular birth registration is that registerig through British Embassy? What do you think is best? Register through British Embassy first or try to apply for a passport? (Which means that my partner since he will be coming back this October to visit us for our child's birthday will bring back all the docs to the Uk and have the application in there). Is really me being still married - not separated or annuled would make our child's passport application difficult?
Consular birth registration is no longer done via your local British embassy. If you want to register the birth then you will need to send your application to FCO Services in Milton Keynes. Given your situation I wouldn't bother with the consular birth registration and merely apply directly for the passport.

You being married to someone who is not the father of your child will certainly make the application more difficult. Processing times for children born in the Philippines are already the longest in the world because of the Philippines' divorce law or lack of it. If your husband wasn't a British citizen then your child wouldn't be entitled to British citizenship at all.

Quote:
Yes I have read about "my estranged ex husband automatically being the father of my child since we are still married by the time my child was born". But he isn't the one in the birth certificate, he isn't the biological father. It's just because we were married that's why "they assume him to be the father" which is to be honest ludacrous! I mean I think they need to revise this law.

I know this is a bit if a silly comparison but, it's just funny how someobe can go to America give birth there and the child with no American parents can get their citizenship. And in the Uk they will require DNA test etc for unmarried couple. I know each country has their own rules. It's just sad, when someone is actually legit then things are more difficult but for some others that have fraud in mind, it's way easy.

Life eh.
Unfortunately for you the law is what it is and complaining about it is not going to change the situation for your child. That the US gives anyone born on its soil birthright citizenship is not the same as giving birth to another man's child within marriage. If the situation was the same except that the father was a US citizen then you would have the same problem. If any law needs revising it's the divorce law in the Philippines.
BritInParis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th 2017, 8:44 am   #173
Just Joined
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 11
Kathdudette is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: British dad,filipino born daughter,birth register?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BritInParis View Post
Consular birth registration is no longer done via your local British embassy. If you want to register the birth then you will need to send your application to FCO Services in Milton Keynes. Given your situation I wouldn't bother with the consular birth registration and merely apply directly for the passport.

You being married to someone who is not the father of your child will certainly make the application more difficult. Processing times for children born in the Philippines are already the longest in the world because of the Philippines' divorce law or lack of it. If your husband wasn't a British citizen then your child wouldn't be entitled to British citizenship at all.



Unfortunately for you the law is what it is and complaining about it is not going to change the situation for your child. That the US gives anyone born on its soil birthright citizenship is not the same as giving birth to another man's child within marriage. If the situation was the same except that the father was a US citizen then you would have the same problem. If any law needs revising it's the divorce law in the Philippines.
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. Okay so yes we will do the passport application and avoid the consular application.

And yes you are right, our law should be revised, as a lot of women or men are trapped in a senseless marriage like I am. I just hope the dissolution of marriage that bill that they are proposing will be granted finally in the senate or wherever or whoever needs to approve it. But yes thank you very much.
Kathdudette is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   British Expats / Living & Moving Abroad / Far East and Asia / Philippines


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:08 pm.


Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 1999-2010 BritishExpats.com