Would this work?
#31
Re: Would this work?
Correct, if you're after money, go to Australia. It's one of the many hit/misses when comparing aus/nz. The fact so many people do successfully move to nz shows it is indeed achievable and there are other non financial advantages in choosing nz. Some people just don't integrate with friends/culture (rugby and domestic violence are popular!) here and so this plus average wages makes a fair few return too.
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NZ has better scenery/outdoors, education, government, freedom, food (supermarkets anyway), more things to do and far less Americanised.
A uneducated Kiwi working for $15 an hour in Hamilton can pack up and go to Melbourne/Perth/Brisbane and get $25ph. They can get a brand new 4 bedroom house and land package, sometimes with no deposit on the city outskirts and also a new car on credit. They aren't too bothered about the hipster lifestyle and quality of schools. This sort of lifestyle is a huge chunk of the kiwis moving over there.
But if you are a IT contractor on $800 a day, medical specialist on $400k pa etc, want to live in a leafy neighborhood and have your kids go to the top schools then the difference is a lot less, if at all. Australia is very expensive in the desirable areas, the same as Auckland. Worse in Sydney.
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They can? Would you care to enlighten those of us who actually live in Australia how they're doing these things?
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The point is that in Auckland these sorts of houses might be minimum $6-700k, in Aus they are a lot cheaper in the new developments.
E.g $2k deposit with Metricon, one of the biggest developers. You can't do that in NZ.
http://www.metricon.com.au/builders/.../home-solution
And as if on cue :
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/personal-f...ectid=11808522
"Australia is a much bigger country and it's always offered attractive job prospects, particularly for blue-collar workers. Wages are higher and workers in many industries experience better conditions."
Last edited by sr71; Feb 27th 2017 at 6:25 am.
#35
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Ok, not no deposit, but plenty of places offer very low deposit, say $5,000, and house and land from $300k. Also have the rent to buy offers and other creative finance.
The point is that in Auckland these sorts of houses might be minimum $6-700k, in Aus they are a lot cheaper in the new developments.
E.g $2k deposit with Metricon, one of the biggest developers. You can't do that in NZ.
HomeSolution - Metricon
And as if on cue :
Mark Lister: Australia to blame for migration boom - Personal Finance - NZ Herald News
"Australia is a much bigger country and it's always offered attractive job prospects, particularly for blue-collar workers. Wages are higher and workers in many industries experience better conditions."
The point is that in Auckland these sorts of houses might be minimum $6-700k, in Aus they are a lot cheaper in the new developments.
E.g $2k deposit with Metricon, one of the biggest developers. You can't do that in NZ.
HomeSolution - Metricon
And as if on cue :
Mark Lister: Australia to blame for migration boom - Personal Finance - NZ Herald News
"Australia is a much bigger country and it's always offered attractive job prospects, particularly for blue-collar workers. Wages are higher and workers in many industries experience better conditions."
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Re: Would this work?
http://www.sro.vic.gov.au/first-home-owner/apply-first-home-owner-grant-fhog
#37
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Homeowners grant is available to NZ passport holders, they are treated as permanent residents in this case
Apply for the First Home Owner Grant (FHOG) | State Revenue Office
Apply for the First Home Owner Grant (FHOG) | State Revenue Office
However my assertion still is that it's not just 5k and brand new home. There's a shed load of stuff thats not included in building. We did it a few years ago
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Hi,
as a MH professional who moved here from the NHS, I would advise you that I personally have not come across any psychotherapists employed by DHBs (therapy usually provided by psychologists), at least not in my locality, cannot speak for other regions. I would imagine you would be most likely to have to find employment in the private sector and I am unsure what the requirements are in terms of visa, etc. It is also worth mentioning that MH services are very different here and as a result I have not enjoyed my work as much as in the UK. Just my view though
as a MH professional who moved here from the NHS, I would advise you that I personally have not come across any psychotherapists employed by DHBs (therapy usually provided by psychologists), at least not in my locality, cannot speak for other regions. I would imagine you would be most likely to have to find employment in the private sector and I am unsure what the requirements are in terms of visa, etc. It is also worth mentioning that MH services are very different here and as a result I have not enjoyed my work as much as in the UK. Just my view though
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I moved from UK to Canada with my family. I had a job waiting for me in Canada, I had relatives and friends in Canada who helped in the settling process.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
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Re: Would this work?
A uneducated Kiwi working for $15 an hour in Hamilton can pack up and go to Melbourne/Perth/Brisbane and get $25ph. They can get a brand new 4 bedroom house and land package, sometimes with no deposit on the city outskirts and also a new car on credit. They aren't too bothered about the hipster lifestyle and quality of schools. This sort of lifestyle is a huge chunk of the kiwis moving over there.
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I moved from UK to Canada with my family. I had a job waiting for me in Canada, I had relatives and friends in Canada who helped in the settling process.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
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I moved from UK to Canada with my family. I had a job waiting for me in Canada, I had relatives and friends in Canada who helped in the settling process.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
Yes Oz would have been my second choice too, Canada didn't even get a look in, too cold, too close to the UK, too close to the States, too expensive in the only good bit (BC). Totally unattractive place to move to, everyone agrees, nobody would want to live there, everyone agrees, totally unattractive and I love the cold, no one loves the cold more than me.
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I moved from UK to Canada with my family. I had a job waiting for me in Canada, I had relatives and friends in Canada who helped in the settling process.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.
Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.
Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
I have a wonderful quality of life. The weather is reasonable, never any real extremes, well not in the north anyway.
What you said is a bit like saying "Why would you wanna move to Canada?" Its a dumb thing to say. Not everyone likes NZ but some do. I would not live anywhere else. Living next door to one Mr Trump? Now that IS unattractive. As are your extremes of weather and the ridiculous amount of travelling you have to do to get to east from west, but I am sure you love Canada in spite of all that!! I am sure you are very happy there as are many other millions...get my point??
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Re: Would this work?
Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.
Personally I don't get Canada, would be one of the last places I'd move to, the USA would be even better.