View Poll Results: Should Scotland be an independent country?
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Should Scotland be an independent country?
#2
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
Maybe if London was declared a separate Country and spent their own monies collected within their boundaries then the likes of Scotland, Wales etc would be more at ease rather than watching vast amounts wasted on London only benefiting projects, Cross Rail, HS2 etc
OK it's slightly off topic but I think a root problem with Britain at the mo.
OK it's slightly off topic but I think a root problem with Britain at the mo.
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
No better together, but respect their wishes.
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
yes, bugger off, good riddance
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
all I can say is that I hope everyone that votes has taken the time and effort to fully research the pros and cons for each side and not just have the attitude that Cameron (or insert any other PM names) can go jump.
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
A yes will leave them with nothing once all the major companies relocate back south of the border.
Salmond will be a marked man, hounded by the hoards of unemployed who will be looking for answers
whiskey and a rapidly dwindling oil supply are no foundation to build an economy on.
As an Englishman its a win win situation;
Win) A yes will give us the right to point, laugh and say I told you so as the place crumbles around their ears.
Win) A no will hopefully shut them up once and for all as we can smugly say You had your chance and bottled it now stfu
Salmond will be a marked man, hounded by the hoards of unemployed who will be looking for answers
whiskey and a rapidly dwindling oil supply are no foundation to build an economy on.
As an Englishman its a win win situation;
Win) A yes will give us the right to point, laugh and say I told you so as the place crumbles around their ears.
Win) A no will hopefully shut them up once and for all as we can smugly say You had your chance and bottled it now stfu
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
A rapidly dwindling oil supply? UK government must not of got that memo when they just pumped 9 billion into it and just discovered the largest oil field ever!
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
Could be interesting if they go yes and tell the rest to take their Nuclear Subs away.......no where else to keep them! Wales has Milford but the mega tankers are using that for bringing in gas!
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Well they are built in Barrow, so perhaps they would have to upgrade that facility. But I don't think it will happen, in the end they are too cautious and won't have the nerve. I'm glad I don't live there anymore, it was bad enough before, it'll be even worse now the s**t-pot has been stirred and all the turds have risen to the top.
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I reckon they'll get that back with some interest from that venture ... and what is 9 billion these days anyway?
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Well they are built in Barrow, so perhaps they would have to upgrade that facility. But I don't think it will happen, in the end they are too cautious and won't have the nerve. I'm glad I don't live there anymore, it was bad enough before, it'll be even worse now the s**t-pot has been stirred and all the turds have risen to the top.
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The noises from south of the border sound exactly like a husband who's just come home to find a 'dear John letter'...'veering between possessiveness (you can't live without me), sentimentality (c'mon -we're better together) and the odd threat ( fine! Good luck without the pound!)'.
Never nice to realise someone's outgrown you but once they've decided to leave nothing you can do can bring them back. Just have to be civil for the sake of the kids.
Time to take a look inside and wonder when you started to take her for granted. You used to do everything together! In the early days it felt like you were on top of the world...
then the compliments stopped and the nights out together and then you started making snidey comments and then being mean and rude. You got middle aged and started spouting right wing xenophobic comments (did you notice she just silently sat back and didn't join in). You thought she'd put on a bit of weight after the 70's and so you put her on the neoliberal atkins diet and sent her to the gym every night even though you new it wasn't really her. But you didn't care.
And she, she just kept resenting you, quietly at first and then more openly. You almost split over the affair with that cheap little poll tax but you somehow made up, but you went back to your old ways, until.....you found the letter...is she bluffing, or will she really leave you...whatever happens if you're a smart guy (like you say you are) you know it won't be the same again.
Never nice to realise someone's outgrown you but once they've decided to leave nothing you can do can bring them back. Just have to be civil for the sake of the kids.
Time to take a look inside and wonder when you started to take her for granted. You used to do everything together! In the early days it felt like you were on top of the world...
then the compliments stopped and the nights out together and then you started making snidey comments and then being mean and rude. You got middle aged and started spouting right wing xenophobic comments (did you notice she just silently sat back and didn't join in). You thought she'd put on a bit of weight after the 70's and so you put her on the neoliberal atkins diet and sent her to the gym every night even though you new it wasn't really her. But you didn't care.
And she, she just kept resenting you, quietly at first and then more openly. You almost split over the affair with that cheap little poll tax but you somehow made up, but you went back to your old ways, until.....you found the letter...is she bluffing, or will she really leave you...whatever happens if you're a smart guy (like you say you are) you know it won't be the same again.
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
I like that especially the 'you know it won't be the same again'.
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
around 175000 BPD) with a max output of around 200 million barrels
I would to look to independent industry analysts for figures rather than believe the massively over hyped and misquoted figures Alex Salmond is throwing
around in a desperate bid to win over the undecided masses
SIR IAN WOOD: Why Salmond's wrong on 'Scotland's oil'... It's running out faster than he thinks, says the very British billionaire | This is Money
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Re: Should Scotland be an independent country?
MrH and I have already been told we will both have to relocate or be unemployed if the vote goes catastrophically wrong as our employers can't stay and survive in a non-EU and non-UK country.
I have been horrified by the amount of racist abuse thrown at English people living in Scotland recently, if that's the face of Scotland as a country on its own I don't want any part of it. When open racism, spitting at people and threats of physical violence are condoned and encouraged you know there's a problem.
Oil will be done by the end of my lifetime, there's already less than half being extracted than the previous estimates from the pro-independence people.
Edited to add I wonder how it might affect Scots living in NZ? If they suddenly come from a non-UK country in early 2016 how does that affect residency for NZ?
We have plans for it goes the wrong way but we couldn't afford NZ any more as house sales and prices are already dropping badly with conditions being placed on house offers that no sale will occur unless the outcome is NO.
I have been horrified by the amount of racist abuse thrown at English people living in Scotland recently, if that's the face of Scotland as a country on its own I don't want any part of it. When open racism, spitting at people and threats of physical violence are condoned and encouraged you know there's a problem.
Oil will be done by the end of my lifetime, there's already less than half being extracted than the previous estimates from the pro-independence people.
Edited to add I wonder how it might affect Scots living in NZ? If they suddenly come from a non-UK country in early 2016 how does that affect residency for NZ?
We have plans for it goes the wrong way but we couldn't afford NZ any more as house sales and prices are already dropping badly with conditions being placed on house offers that no sale will occur unless the outcome is NO.
Last edited by Hazelnut; Sep 16th 2014 at 11:11 am.