New Zealand Citizenship Review
Jun 15th 2004, 9:31 am
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New Zealand Citizenship Review
The New Zealand government is still apparently making up its mind to change the law which grants automatic citizenship to all children born in NZ (those born to diplomats excepted).
It does however seem likely that in the near future it will be necessary for at least one parent to be a New Zealand citizen or permanent resident.
They do appear to be serious about increasing the residence period for citizenship from 3 years to 5 years, as well as removing the concession that allows time on a temporary visa to count towards the required residence.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...reportID=55514
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It does however seem likely that in the near future it will be necessary for at least one parent to be a New Zealand citizen or permanent resident.
They do appear to be serious about increasing the residence period for citizenship from 3 years to 5 years, as well as removing the concession that allows time on a temporary visa to count towards the required residence.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...reportID=55514
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Jun 15th 2004, 9:38 am
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A lot of this is done to gain entry to Australia through the back door.
NZ is overloaded with people (many of them Asians) who cannot qualify for entry to Australia. Thy go to NZ to get citizenship and hop straight on a plane to Australia as NZ citizens as they then do not need to seek residency.
NZ is overloaded with people (many of them Asians) who cannot qualify for entry to Australia. Thy go to NZ to get citizenship and hop straight on a plane to Australia as NZ citizens as they then do not need to seek residency.
Jun 15th 2004, 9:51 am
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These days New Zealand is harder for most people to get into, compared to Australia.
And NZ citizens no longer get automatic PR rights in Australia - http://www.nz-oz.gov.au
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And NZ citizens no longer get automatic PR rights in Australia - http://www.nz-oz.gov.au
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Originally posted by podgypossum
A lot of this is done to gain entry to Australia through the back door.
NZ is overloaded with people (many of them Asians) who cannot qualify for entry to Australia. Thy go to NZ to get citizenship and hop straight on a plane to Australia as NZ citizens as they then do not need to seek residency.
A lot of this is done to gain entry to Australia through the back door.
NZ is overloaded with people (many of them Asians) who cannot qualify for entry to Australia. Thy go to NZ to get citizenship and hop straight on a plane to Australia as NZ citizens as they then do not need to seek residency.
Jun 15th 2004, 10:17 pm
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Another recent case is the Iranian Winston Peters has named in parliamant on a few occasions for being an overstayer and taking advantage of government services. Not sure if they are simply able to remove him?
It would seem there are various changes being banded around but some of them are based on high migration figures, as has been seen the last few years.
As the figures seem to be tailing off now, it would also seem that this was a 'blip' in the immigration figures. Kiwis are staying over sees longer again, etc, etc.
It will be interesting to see what happens if labour loose power...
It would seem there are various changes being banded around but some of them are based on high migration figures, as has been seen the last few years.
As the figures seem to be tailing off now, it would also seem that this was a 'blip' in the immigration figures. Kiwis are staying over sees longer again, etc, etc.
It will be interesting to see what happens if labour loose power...
Jun 16th 2004, 1:00 am
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Originally posted by JAJ
These days New Zealand is harder for most people to get into, compared to Australia.
And NZ citizens no longer get automatic PR rights in Australia - http://www.nz-oz.gov.au
Jeremy
These days New Zealand is harder for most people to get into, compared to Australia.
And NZ citizens no longer get automatic PR rights in Australia - http://www.nz-oz.gov.au
Jeremy
They may not get automatic right of PR, but they can certainly still come to Aus to live and work freely. I know this as my husband is a Kiwi and is only seeking PR in Aus so i can stay here with him. If he was single he would not need to.
Jun 18th 2004, 8:23 am
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Re: New Zealand Citizenship Review
The Bill to change the law in New Zealand has been published.
http://www.knowledge-basket.co.nz/gp...s/20041481.txt
It does not include any provision to abolish the automatic citizenship by birth rule, but that could be added by an amendment later on.
Details of the new 5 year residence period for naturalisation are included. Those applying before 1 January 2005 will be assessed under the existing rules.
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http://www.knowledge-basket.co.nz/gp...s/20041481.txt
It does not include any provision to abolish the automatic citizenship by birth rule, but that could be added by an amendment later on.
Details of the new 5 year residence period for naturalisation are included. Those applying before 1 January 2005 will be assessed under the existing rules.
Jeremy
Originally posted by JAJ
The New Zealand government is still apparently making up its mind to change the law which grants automatic citizenship to all children born in NZ (those born to diplomats excepted).
It does however seem likely that in the near future it will be necessary for at least one parent to be a New Zealand citizen or permanent resident.
They do appear to be serious about increasing the residence period for citizenship from 3 years to 5 years, as well as removing the concession that allows time on a temporary visa to count towards the required residence.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...reportID=55514
Jeremy
The New Zealand government is still apparently making up its mind to change the law which grants automatic citizenship to all children born in NZ (those born to diplomats excepted).
It does however seem likely that in the near future it will be necessary for at least one parent to be a New Zealand citizen or permanent resident.
They do appear to be serious about increasing the residence period for citizenship from 3 years to 5 years, as well as removing the concession that allows time on a temporary visa to count towards the required residence.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...reportID=55514
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Jun 18th 2004, 8:49 am
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NZ passport holders can still come and go in Australia pretty much as they see fit, so long as their character isn't in question.
As for the five year citizenship rule; Australia needs to up its residency requirement to five years as well. It's too damned easy as it is. Five years is ample time.
As for the five year citizenship rule; Australia needs to up its residency requirement to five years as well. It's too damned easy as it is. Five years is ample time.
Jun 18th 2004, 10:26 am
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They did consider raising the residence requirement to 4 years, a few years ago (about 1998 or 1999). Nothing ever came of it.
With the Australian government keen to encourage take-up of citizenship, an increase in the residence period would be a step in the wrong direction. Witholding or cancellation of passports on security grounds is a separate issue.
In any case, with increasing use of temporary visas (spouse, business skills, and now SIR) many migrants to Australia face a 4-5 year de-facto residence period for citizenship anyway.
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With the Australian government keen to encourage take-up of citizenship, an increase in the residence period would be a step in the wrong direction. Witholding or cancellation of passports on security grounds is a separate issue.
In any case, with increasing use of temporary visas (spouse, business skills, and now SIR) many migrants to Australia face a 4-5 year de-facto residence period for citizenship anyway.
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Originally posted by Ulujain
NZ passport holders can still come and go in Australia pretty much as they see fit, so long as their character isn't in question.
As for the five year citizenship rule; Australia needs to up its residency requirement to five years as well. It's too damned easy as it is. Five years is ample time.
NZ passport holders can still come and go in Australia pretty much as they see fit, so long as their character isn't in question.
As for the five year citizenship rule; Australia needs to up its residency requirement to five years as well. It's too damned easy as it is. Five years is ample time.
Jun 18th 2004, 10:37 am
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ulujain
NZ passport holders can still come and go in Australia pretty much as they see fit, so long as their character isn't in question.
Ummm..isnt that what i just said above??...sometimes i feel i am invisible!!
NZ passport holders can still come and go in Australia pretty much as they see fit, so long as their character isn't in question.
Ummm..isnt that what i just said above??...sometimes i feel i am invisible!!
Jun 18th 2004, 12:29 pm
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No, not really. You never mentioned the character requirement.
Jun 18th 2004, 12:34 pm
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I was replying to JAJ in any case, as well as giving my usual arrogant opinion on something.
