University in the UK
#1
University in the UK
OK. So. Had a talk with my dad about school tonight (over a nice thai dinner ) - and the topic of uni, as always, came up. Long story short, he said if I found a good program similar to the one i'd do in Canada at a respectable European university, and the fees weren't too expensive (yes they would be a little more than Canada but that would be alright) , I could go to university in Europe rather than staying in Canada.
I narrowed down to UK (or possibly Ireland, but would prefer UK) because it is English-speaking. Doing a uni program in a foreign language doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
I would be looking at something in Information Technology, or maybe business. Preferably nothing that requires science, as i'm bad at that and I absolutely despise it, because i'm bad at it . (So no, not "Computer Science" . "Information Technology" . They are different degrees in different departments)
Do UK unis offer such a thing? Open to all recommendations, don't really need a specific city as I have no family / connections to the UK so no draw really to anywhere.
The only real hurdle I can see is transferring my Canadian high school education to UK requirements. I look at stuff like "A Levels" "O levels" and it doesn't really mean anything to me, ie I don't know how to translate that to the Canadian system. What would I need to do in order to convert that to UK requirements.
For those that don't know, I am an EU citizen, so my immigration is sorted.
Some of you will probably come on and say "why are you planning this far ahead. Its 3 years away. etc." BUT, come February I need to pick my courses for 11th grade, which will define what I do for 12th grade, and therefore decide what university programs i'll be able to apply to. So I need to know things like this in advance. Plus my dad wants to see a "plan" of what I'll do, from this moment until I get to university.
Cheers
I narrowed down to UK (or possibly Ireland, but would prefer UK) because it is English-speaking. Doing a uni program in a foreign language doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
I would be looking at something in Information Technology, or maybe business. Preferably nothing that requires science, as i'm bad at that and I absolutely despise it, because i'm bad at it . (So no, not "Computer Science" . "Information Technology" . They are different degrees in different departments)
Do UK unis offer such a thing? Open to all recommendations, don't really need a specific city as I have no family / connections to the UK so no draw really to anywhere.
The only real hurdle I can see is transferring my Canadian high school education to UK requirements. I look at stuff like "A Levels" "O levels" and it doesn't really mean anything to me, ie I don't know how to translate that to the Canadian system. What would I need to do in order to convert that to UK requirements.
For those that don't know, I am an EU citizen, so my immigration is sorted.
Some of you will probably come on and say "why are you planning this far ahead. Its 3 years away. etc." BUT, come February I need to pick my courses for 11th grade, which will define what I do for 12th grade, and therefore decide what university programs i'll be able to apply to. So I need to know things like this in advance. Plus my dad wants to see a "plan" of what I'll do, from this moment until I get to university.
Cheers
#2
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Re: University in the UK
Have you looked at the UCAS site? That has a lot of info:
How It Works | UCAS | Get into Higher Education University Courses
I think you would still have to pay overseas tuition rates if you had not been resident in the EU for the three years previous to the start of the course.
The universities will have a list of what they require regarding qualifications from different countries.
How It Works | UCAS | Get into Higher Education University Courses
I think you would still have to pay overseas tuition rates if you had not been resident in the EU for the three years previous to the start of the course.
The universities will have a list of what they require regarding qualifications from different countries.
#3
Re: University in the UK
Don't forget Sweden, I understand that a lot of courses are taught in English. And as a EU passport holder I think its all free!
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Re: University in the UK
Hi Gozit,
Obviously I’m no expert since I’m trying to figure this out for myself.
Respectable European university and English-speaking program could entail Netherlands/Denmark/Sweden, and I’m guessing that with EU passport -- fees would be much less because I don’t think you’d need to be living in the EU for about 3 years to qualify for EU fees – though I’m not sure about this, and to double-check could be wise.
There’s a particular university in Netherlands that is, indeed, international with people all over the world who study there (so their admissions office would have an idea how to process your Canadian degree because they have a lot of people with similar backgrounds studying there) – they have very broad curriculum so you could explore what you’d like and your interest during those 3 years. The downside is, it’d be very hard, and there would be classes/courses you’d need to pass (science, stats, calculus, research methods, etc) to complete your degree.
I’d mention its name though I’m not certain if this forum allows that (?). Well, just a thought/suggestion
Obviously I’m no expert since I’m trying to figure this out for myself.
Respectable European university and English-speaking program could entail Netherlands/Denmark/Sweden, and I’m guessing that with EU passport -- fees would be much less because I don’t think you’d need to be living in the EU for about 3 years to qualify for EU fees – though I’m not sure about this, and to double-check could be wise.
There’s a particular university in Netherlands that is, indeed, international with people all over the world who study there (so their admissions office would have an idea how to process your Canadian degree because they have a lot of people with similar backgrounds studying there) – they have very broad curriculum so you could explore what you’d like and your interest during those 3 years. The downside is, it’d be very hard, and there would be classes/courses you’d need to pass (science, stats, calculus, research methods, etc) to complete your degree.
I’d mention its name though I’m not certain if this forum allows that (?). Well, just a thought/suggestion
#5
Re: University in the UK
I think that British universities typically require a foundation year for students from the US and Canada (and possibly other countries?), so the issues of not having O and A levels are less difficult to navigate but will add a year to your degree studies, bringing you back to the usual four years for a degree in North America.
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Re: University in the UK
Gozit
Why don't you Google some UK universities regarding entry qualifications and fees?
I checked with my university and got the following info for entry qualifications for Canada.
Undergraduate Study
Ontario: 70% or above in 6 Grade 12 U or M courses
Alberta: A minimum of 75% in 5 acceptable Grade 12 subjects
British Colombia: A minimum of 5 B Grades in Grade 12 subjects
There are also many USA and Canadian students in Ireland e.g. Limerick University.
Flights to Ireland are cheaper because they have scrapped "air passenger duty".
Why don't you Google some UK universities regarding entry qualifications and fees?
I checked with my university and got the following info for entry qualifications for Canada.
Undergraduate Study
Ontario: 70% or above in 6 Grade 12 U or M courses
Alberta: A minimum of 75% in 5 acceptable Grade 12 subjects
British Colombia: A minimum of 5 B Grades in Grade 12 subjects
There are also many USA and Canadian students in Ireland e.g. Limerick University.
Flights to Ireland are cheaper because they have scrapped "air passenger duty".
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Re: University in the UK
I think that British universities typically require a foundation year for students from the US and Canada (and possibly other countries?), so the issues of not having O and A levels are less difficult to navigate but will add a year to your degree studies, bringing you back to the usual four years for a degree in North America.
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Re: University in the UK
Some EU countries offer courses in English and I don't think they have they needed to bring in the 3 year rule for those with an EU passport.
University of Limerick Undergraduate Prospectus
He will need to pay International fees, as he lives Canada.
Residency
You must have been living in an EU/EEA member state or Switzerland for at least 3 of the 5 years before starting your course.
http://www3.ul.ie/finance/docs/StudentFeeGuidelines.pdf
Last edited by formula; Aug 15th 2014 at 9:41 am.
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Re: University in the UK
Look at Masstricht Uni in Holland.
They teach most courses in English and many UK students are going there because the fees are very low. As an EU passport holder, I think they are FREE. Just as UK Uni is for students from the EU.
don't know what courses they do , but i'm sure if you google it you'll get some answers!
The best of luck!
They teach most courses in English and many UK students are going there because the fees are very low. As an EU passport holder, I think they are FREE. Just as UK Uni is for students from the EU.
don't know what courses they do , but i'm sure if you google it you'll get some answers!
The best of luck!
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Re: University in the UK
Expect fees to go up too as there are plans to make the universities cover some of the cost of their students who don't repay their Student Loans, instead of the UK taxpayers picking up the tab. They will have to be more responsible on the courses they offer and the students they take.
Last edited by formula; Aug 15th 2014 at 9:51 am.
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Re: University in the UK
Prospective students - Maastricht University
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Re: University in the UK
Have you looked at the UCAS site? That has a lot of info:
How It Works | UCAS | Get into Higher Education University Courses
I think you would still have to pay overseas tuition rates if you had not been resident in the EU for the three years previous to the start of the course.
The universities will have a list of what they require regarding qualifications from different countries.
How It Works | UCAS | Get into Higher Education University Courses
I think you would still have to pay overseas tuition rates if you had not been resident in the EU for the three years previous to the start of the course.
The universities will have a list of what they require regarding qualifications from different countries.
UCAS Search tool - Computing for Business (ITMB) - Summary
Yeah i'll have to pay international fees, but maybe it all evens out in the wash since uni in the UK is three years vs four? (I forgot about that. There's another reason to do it )
Hi Gozit,
Obviously I’m no expert since I’m trying to figure this out for myself.
Respectable European university and English-speaking program could entail Netherlands/Denmark/Sweden, and I’m guessing that with EU passport -- fees would be much less because I don’t think you’d need to be living in the EU for about 3 years to qualify for EU fees – though I’m not sure about this, and to double-check could be wise.
There’s a particular university in Netherlands that is, indeed, international with people all over the world who study there (so their admissions office would have an idea how to process your Canadian degree because they have a lot of people with similar backgrounds studying there) – they have very broad curriculum so you could explore what you’d like and your interest during those 3 years. The downside is, it’d be very hard, and there would be classes/courses you’d need to pass (science, stats, calculus, research methods, etc) to complete your degree.
I’d mention its name though I’m not certain if this forum allows that (?). Well, just a thought/suggestion
Obviously I’m no expert since I’m trying to figure this out for myself.
Respectable European university and English-speaking program could entail Netherlands/Denmark/Sweden, and I’m guessing that with EU passport -- fees would be much less because I don’t think you’d need to be living in the EU for about 3 years to qualify for EU fees – though I’m not sure about this, and to double-check could be wise.
There’s a particular university in Netherlands that is, indeed, international with people all over the world who study there (so their admissions office would have an idea how to process your Canadian degree because they have a lot of people with similar backgrounds studying there) – they have very broad curriculum so you could explore what you’d like and your interest during those 3 years. The downside is, it’d be very hard, and there would be classes/courses you’d need to pass (science, stats, calculus, research methods, etc) to complete your degree.
I’d mention its name though I’m not certain if this forum allows that (?). Well, just a thought/suggestion
Gozit
Why don't you Google some UK universities regarding entry qualifications and fees?
I checked with my university and got the following info for entry qualifications for Canada.
Undergraduate Study
Ontario: 70% or above in 6 Grade 12 U or M courses
Alberta: A minimum of 75% in 5 acceptable Grade 12 subjects
British Colombia: A minimum of 5 B Grades in Grade 12 subjects
There are also many USA and Canadian students in Ireland e.g. Limerick University.
Flights to Ireland are cheaper because they have scrapped "air passenger duty".
Why don't you Google some UK universities regarding entry qualifications and fees?
I checked with my university and got the following info for entry qualifications for Canada.
Undergraduate Study
Ontario: 70% or above in 6 Grade 12 U or M courses
Alberta: A minimum of 75% in 5 acceptable Grade 12 subjects
British Colombia: A minimum of 5 B Grades in Grade 12 subjects
There are also many USA and Canadian students in Ireland e.g. Limerick University.
Flights to Ireland are cheaper because they have scrapped "air passenger duty".
So would being Canadian suffice for that part?
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Re: University in the UK
Question - when it says "tuition fees £14,000 for non-EU students" , does this mean £14,000 per year, or £14,000 for the whole lot? BSc Computing for Business
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Re: University in the UK
OK I really like this one BSc Computing for Business
It has optional sandwich year and optional year abroad, and is the sort of thing i'd like to do. Plus, no math courses at all !! Its all to do with business / computing.
BUT it says nothing about the entry requirements for international students. Of course it tells you fees, and information about visas, which I won't need because i'm an EU citizen, but nothing about marks/school. Based on what it says about A-level Math or Computing or Business, I can take math/business/computing courses at my high school in Canada, if that helps.
It has optional sandwich year and optional year abroad, and is the sort of thing i'd like to do. Plus, no math courses at all !! Its all to do with business / computing.
BUT it says nothing about the entry requirements for international students. Of course it tells you fees, and information about visas, which I won't need because i'm an EU citizen, but nothing about marks/school. Based on what it says about A-level Math or Computing or Business, I can take math/business/computing courses at my high school in Canada, if that helps.
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Re: University in the UK
Re: Fees, I'd assume £14k per year, since the cap in the UK for locals is £9600 per year. But I am only assuming that, I don't know for sure.
That program sounds good too!
That program sounds good too!