mandevilla

Does anyone know how much the fees are for a 'foreign student' is or how I can find out please?

Piff Poff

Its different depending on establishment I believe, best thing to do is google the uni and look on the future or international student page.

mandevilla

Thanks !

Justcol

Home students pay around 9 thousand pounds a year
Overseas can pay anything from 9 to 30 thousand a year

Lion in Winter

I know this is an old post, but how or why did this happen? My son is in the same position, and it seems pretty clear that it's international student status for him, even if "repatriating".

How did your sons get home status?

scot47

If resident in Scotland or in another EU State outside the UK for 3 years or more prior to matriculation there are no fees at a Scottish university.

Lion in Winter

Nice. No good for a Chicago boy though, even a British one.

holly_1948

If the parents are overseas on a visa that does not offer any form of "permanent" status but is renewed every year or two then a case can be made that the overseas sojourn was "temporary".
It takes more than merely saying your overseas posting was not permanent; but the definition of temporary is maximally stretched within sane limits in many cases. Especially if other connections with the home country are maintained, for example bank accounts and mail forwarding.
Typically a British Chicago boy will get better educational costs at a continental university than one in the British Isles. Invaluable life and language experience too.

bourbon-biscuit

I think the system is grossly unfair because there are plenty of stories of families who managed to get awarded "home" status well outside of the published definitions. This means that if you can actually afford the fees (and there are several posters who have detailed such stories of chancing it and getting awarded home status being a bonus) it's worth a punt, whereas if there is no way you can afford to pay the uni fees upfront (plus all the other uni costs) then you won't be in a position to risk it.

My daughter wanted to study PPE at Oxford but there was just no way in hell we could afford it for her. She's off to study for it at ANU where we will also fund her upfront (minus scholarship) but it's doable and it's a transparent system. When I read about folk lying on the forms or folk getting home status by virtue of one kindly admin person it makes me very sad and a bit cross (not towards individuals but the system). I can't stand unfairness.

BlahBlahBlahThunk

A good link to look at is UKCISA - England: Higher Education - Fee status in England: Higher Education - this gives all of the requirements for 'Home' or 'International' students. We're in the same boat as most people here and are cutting short our sojourn so that #1 son can do A levels in the UK (coming from an MYP/IB school) - he will just have to take a year off/do resits/get a job (HaHa!) for year 3...

Gozit

I agree. I don't understand why a foreigner resident in the UK can get "home" fees by virtue of living in the UK, but a Brit can't go home and get an education if they like. As a Canadian citizen, if I lived outside of Canada and then came to Canada to study I would not pay "international" fees because i'm a Canadian citizen. The same as an EU citizen, anywhere but England.

holly_1948

I think you misunderstand.

A 19 year old Canadian resident, UK citizen, would pay international fees, not home fees for University undergraduate study in (for example) France or Germany.
It's just that French or German international fees are typically a lot lower than UK or IRL international fees. Being a UK citizen overcomes the need to obtain a student visa; as compared with a citizen of Canada who has no dual citizenship and would need a visa to study in France or Germany.

Gozit

AFAIK depending on the EU country, if its free for those country nationals under any circumstance, than its free for any EU citizen. Case in point: University of Malta is always free to Maltese/EU citizens regardless of prior residence. As a Maltese abroad I can go home for uni any time I want and it will be covered. If a 19 year old formerly Canadian resident UK citizen wanted to go to Malta, it would be free for them too. Its just if you are a non-EU citizen. AFAIK this is the case for most countries except the UK. I've looked into places in a few countries for myself and it always denoted citizenship, not residence, as the deciding factor, except British unis. In any case my point still stands, I believe citizens should be able to go home and go to university at domestic rates.

NiHao

Why should they be able to?

Lion in Winter

In terms of self-interest, I would like that to be true. It would make life a lot easier for me and my son.

On the other hand, I have lived and worked in the US for a very long time and I have made no tax contributions in the UK during all that time because my tax is paid here.

I'm not sure that one of my nationalities then entitles me to what is essentially a tax benefit to which I have contributed nothing. Health care is a basic human need, so if I showed up in the UK tomorrow to start living there again, the NHS could and should take care of me. Higher education is slightly different. I think it should be (more or less) free at point of delivery as it used to be (and is in Scotland) for citizens residing in that country, but for those who have lived abroad and not contributed? Not so sure. A posting of a couple of years abroad and then returning? Yes, I think covering that would be fair. 20 years abroad? Not so easy.