Returning to uk with UK car
Sep 28th 2014, 2:24 pm
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Returning to uk with UK car
Hi all and apologies my first post is a question....
I have ended up with two cars in the Netherlands, one is taxed, insured and no mot
One is not being used and is SORNd with no mot
My understanding is that I can take them on the ferry home (Amsterdam to Newcastle) and drive home (Edinburgh) if I am booked into an MOT for both. Does anyone know if this is correct?
I figure I will probably get stopped via ANPR activation with both cars....
Thanks
Mike
I have ended up with two cars in the Netherlands, one is taxed, insured and no mot
One is not being used and is SORNd with no mot
My understanding is that I can take them on the ferry home (Amsterdam to Newcastle) and drive home (Edinburgh) if I am booked into an MOT for both. Does anyone know if this is correct?
I figure I will probably get stopped via ANPR activation with both cars....
Thanks
Mike
Sep 28th 2014, 3:40 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
Hi all and apologies my first post is a question....
I have ended up with two cars in the Netherlands, one is taxed, insured and no mot
One is not being used and is SORNd with no mot
My understanding is that I can take them on the ferry home (Amsterdam to Newcastle) and drive home (Edinburgh) if I am booked into an MOT for both. Does anyone know if this is correct?
I figure I will probably get stopped via ANPR activation with both cars....
Thanks
Mike
I have ended up with two cars in the Netherlands, one is taxed, insured and no mot
One is not being used and is SORNd with no mot
My understanding is that I can take them on the ferry home (Amsterdam to Newcastle) and drive home (Edinburgh) if I am booked into an MOT for both. Does anyone know if this is correct?
I figure I will probably get stopped via ANPR activation with both cars....
Thanks
Mike
They have ANPR cameras at the ports and Eurostar exits, to catch the EUs using their non UK registered cars in the UK for over their time limit, so you are going to get caught there as your car is SORNed. The system is so good that the Polish police came over to see how our APNR system works as they want it too.
There are so many ANPR cameras now at ports, on roads, in police cars and DVLA vans (who have clamps) and DVLA tow trucks, that from 1 October 2014 we no longer need to display tax discs.
The other problem might be your insurance if you have an accident in a UK registered car with no MOT.
You might need to contact the relevant government authorities to ask the best way to proceed otherwise you won't make it 100 metres out of the port.
Last edited by formula; Sep 28th 2014 at 4:04 pm.
Sep 28th 2014, 3:45 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
I don't know how you will get around this as you can't drive/park a SORNed declared car on UK roads. You can't get a tax disc unless you have a valid MOT.
They have ANPR cameras at the ferries, to catch the EUs using their non UK registered cars in the UK for over the time limit so you are going to get caught there. The system is so good that the Polish police came over to see how our APNR system works as they want it too.
As well as the ANPR cameras on the roads, the police cars have them too and if they catch you, you might not get the car back to Edinburgh. DVLA are also driving around (or firms they contract out to) and slapping on a wheel clamp as soon as a car stops.
There are so many ANPR cameras now, that from 1 October we no longer need tax dics from 1 October 2014.
The other problem might be your insurance if you have an accident, with no MOT.
You might need to contact the relevant government authorities to ask the best way to proceed.
They have ANPR cameras at the ferries, to catch the EUs using their non UK registered cars in the UK for over the time limit so you are going to get caught there. The system is so good that the Polish police came over to see how our APNR system works as they want it too.
As well as the ANPR cameras on the roads, the police cars have them too and if they catch you, you might not get the car back to Edinburgh. DVLA are also driving around (or firms they contract out to) and slapping on a wheel clamp as soon as a car stops.
There are so many ANPR cameras now, that from 1 October we no longer need tax dics from 1 October 2014.
The other problem might be your insurance if you have an accident, with no MOT.
You might need to contact the relevant government authorities to ask the best way to proceed.
Last edited by mikelincs; Sep 28th 2014 at 4:06 pm.
Sep 28th 2014, 4:04 pm
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I don't know how you will get around this as you can't drive/park a SORNed declared car on UK roads. You can't get a tax disc unless you have a valid MOT.
They have ANPR cameras at the ports and Eurostar exits, to catch the EUs using their non UK registered cars in the UK for over their time limit, so you are going to get caught there as your car is SORNed. The system is so good that the Polish police came over to see how our APNR system works as they want it too.
There are so many ANPR cameras now at ports, on roads, in police cars and DVLA vans (who have clamps) and DVLA tow trucks, that from 1 October 2014 we no longer need tax dics.
The other problem might be your insurance if you have an accident, with no MOT.
You might need to contact the relevant government authorities to ask the best way to proceed otherwise you won't make it far from the port.
They have ANPR cameras at the ports and Eurostar exits, to catch the EUs using their non UK registered cars in the UK for over their time limit, so you are going to get caught there as your car is SORNed. The system is so good that the Polish police came over to see how our APNR system works as they want it too.
There are so many ANPR cameras now at ports, on roads, in police cars and DVLA vans (who have clamps) and DVLA tow trucks, that from 1 October 2014 we no longer need tax dics.
The other problem might be your insurance if you have an accident, with no MOT.
You might need to contact the relevant government authorities to ask the best way to proceed otherwise you won't make it far from the port.
I was under the impression you could drive a SORNd car to a MOT.
The car with no MOT doesn't really worry me as no MOT only carries a fine.
Does anyone know who the best people to contact are? The police I assume or VOSA?
Sep 28th 2014, 4:06 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
I am taking the ferry into Newcastle. No idea why the chap mentioned Dover.
I was under the impression you could drive a SORNd car to a MOT.
The car with no MOT doesn't really worry me as no MOT only carries a fine.
Does anyone know who the best people to contact are? The police I assume or VOSA?
I was under the impression you could drive a SORNd car to a MOT.
The car with no MOT doesn't really worry me as no MOT only carries a fine.
Does anyone know who the best people to contact are? The police I assume or VOSA?
Sep 28th 2014, 4:07 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
I am taking the ferry into Newcastle. No idea why the chap mentioned Dover.
I was under the impression you could drive a SORNd car to a MOT.
The car with no MOT doesn't really worry me as no MOT only carries a fine.
Does anyone know who the best people to contact are? The police I assume or VOSA?
I was under the impression you could drive a SORNd car to a MOT.
The car with no MOT doesn't really worry me as no MOT only carries a fine.
Does anyone know who the best people to contact are? The police I assume or VOSA?
Sep 28th 2014, 4:07 pm
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Quite certain that is a common misconception. How do you think people drive SORNd cars to MOT?
Sep 28th 2014, 4:17 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
Hi all and apologies my first post is a question....
I have ended up with two cars in the Netherlands, one is taxed, insured and no mot
One is not being used and is SORNd with no mot
My understanding is that I can take them on the ferry home (Amsterdam to Newcastle) and drive home (Edinburgh) if I am booked into an MOT for both. Does anyone know if this is correct?
I have ended up with two cars in the Netherlands, one is taxed, insured and no mot
One is not being used and is SORNd with no mot
My understanding is that I can take them on the ferry home (Amsterdam to Newcastle) and drive home (Edinburgh) if I am booked into an MOT for both. Does anyone know if this is correct?
You can only drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road if you’re driving it to or from a licensed station for a pre-arranged MOT, vehicle identity check, or weight or emissions test.
and
Your vehicle must be in and remain in Great Britain for your SORN to be valid.
The port ANPR will show that your car has been abroad.
and
You’ll need to get a tax disc if you want to use the vehicle again on the road.
https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notification
Last edited by formula; Sep 28th 2014 at 4:20 pm.
Sep 28th 2014, 4:22 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
It seems that is not correct and you can't drive them home to Edinburgh from Newcastle.
You can only drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road if you’re driving it to or from a licensed station for a pre-arranged MOT, vehicle identity check, or weight or emissions test.
and
Your vehicle must be in and remain in Great Britain for your SORN to be valid.
and
You’ll need to get a tax disc if you want to use the vehicle again on the road.
https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notification
You can only drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road if you’re driving it to or from a licensed station for a pre-arranged MOT, vehicle identity check, or weight or emissions test.
and
Your vehicle must be in and remain in Great Britain for your SORN to be valid.
and
You’ll need to get a tax disc if you want to use the vehicle again on the road.
https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notification
For all intensive purposes, I will be driving the car to the pre arranged MOT once my car arrives in the uk. I am not sure how concerned they will be regarding the validity of my SORN status.
Sep 28th 2014, 4:23 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
It seems that is not correct and you can't drive them home to Edinburgh from Newcastle.
You can only drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road if you’re driving it to or from a licensed station for a pre-arranged MOT, vehicle identity check, or weight or emissions test.
and
Your vehicle must be in and remain in Great Britain for your SORN to be valid.
The port ANPR will show that your car has been abroad.
and
You’ll need to get a tax disc if you want to use the vehicle again on the road.
https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notification
You can only drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road if you’re driving it to or from a licensed station for a pre-arranged MOT, vehicle identity check, or weight or emissions test.
and
Your vehicle must be in and remain in Great Britain for your SORN to be valid.
The port ANPR will show that your car has been abroad.
and
You’ll need to get a tax disc if you want to use the vehicle again on the road.
https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notification
Sep 28th 2014, 4:24 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
I don't know what the rules are for driving a UK registered car in another EU country.
Last edited by formula; Sep 28th 2014 at 4:26 pm.
Sep 28th 2014, 4:28 pm
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Re: Returning to uk with UK car
You can check your car status with DVLA here
https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/