Returning to UK after 30 yrs..advice on getting elderly parents back.
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Re: Returning to UK after 30 yrs..advice on getting elderly parents back.
I was thinking of benefits, but also support in the wider sense. My understanding is that NHS and social services support for people with Alzheimer's and their families varies from one part of the country to another.
The Alzheimer's Society may be able to advise on where in the country most support will be available. I've dealt with several cases of Alzheimer's in my own family and know from experience that the availability of care homes with Alzheimer's nurses, for example, can be crucial.
The Alzheimer's Society may be able to advise on where in the country most support will be available. I've dealt with several cases of Alzheimer's in my own family and know from experience that the availability of care homes with Alzheimer's nurses, for example, can be crucial.
on that point, I found the following
Benefits - Alzheimer's Society
Benefits rates and income/savings thresholds - Alzheimer's Society
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Re: Returning to UK after 30 yrs..advice on getting elderly parents back.
Northern Ireland is still on the old rules of 26 weeks of the last 52 weeks
Attendance Allowance - your circumstances | nidirect
Living in Northern Ireland
"To get Attendance Allowance you must generally:
-be ordinarily resident in Northern Ireland
-be present in Northern Ireland
-have been in Northern Ireland, Great Britain, the Isle of Man, Jersey or Guernsey for at least 26 weeks out of the last 52 weeks (this does not apply for people paid under the special rules)
not be subject to immigration control"
Attendance Allowance - your circumstances | nidirect
Living in Northern Ireland
"To get Attendance Allowance you must generally:
-be ordinarily resident in Northern Ireland
-be present in Northern Ireland
-have been in Northern Ireland, Great Britain, the Isle of Man, Jersey or Guernsey for at least 26 weeks out of the last 52 weeks (this does not apply for people paid under the special rules)
not be subject to immigration control"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31798766
Which means that NI will have to make a 600 million pound cut at last count (and still counting) to their spending in other areas to pay for that part of their welfare bill that the rest of the UK will no longer fund.
If their spending cuts won't already be bad enough, the much needed welfare cuts that we have been told about for the last 3/4 years and that were in the Tory election manifesto that they promised if they were elected, were announced in the budget last week.
No surprise that NI have said that because the NI parties can't agree on the devolved powers they already have, they don't want the extra powers on offer to NI that England and Wales will take to run their own countries.
Last edited by formula; Jul 12th 2015 at 11:53 am.
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You really need to be looking at the immigration rules that also affect British citizens who have been residing abroad i.e. no claiming for 2 years when they return. And the new welfare changes that were announced in the budget last week as well as existing rules i.e. someone of pension age cannot claim PIP.
When the welfare changes in last weeks budget are implemeted, as well as those changes going through under the Welfare Reforms, it will also affect those already claiming in many cases depsite what the rules say now.
When the welfare changes in last weeks budget are implemeted, as well as those changes going through under the Welfare Reforms, it will also affect those already claiming in many cases depsite what the rules say now.
Last edited by formula; Jul 12th 2015 at 12:28 pm.
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The budget made no changes to PIP, Attendance Allowance, or Carer's Allowance.
The two year rule only applies to benefits, not NHS continuing care or social services support.
The OP may find this factsheet from Age UK useful.
The two year rule only applies to benefits, not NHS continuing care or social services support.
The OP may find this factsheet from Age UK useful.
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The new lower household welfare cap in the budget also applies to these claimants too as they aren't given an exemption from that, just that their DLA/PIP benefit money only isn't used in the calculations for their benefits household cap.
As DLA/PIP is an in work benefit, I haven't seen any exemption for these in this most recent budget to prevent them from the rises in the social housing rent if their household income is over 30k (40k inside London). Unless I missed it? Which I could have done.
I haven't seen any exemption for these claimants for any of the SMI (Support for Mortgage Interest) benefit changes either; nor for the July interest rate reduction that SMI pays. Again, I could have missed them.
As the governmnet have already talked about making more benefits means tested and named DLA as one of these benefits, that can't be ruled out in future either.
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It is virtually impossible to reach the welfare cap unless you have dependent children, which is unlikely to apply to a couple in their sixties.
Nor has there been any suggestion that they will be applying for social housing. Or that they will be applying for a mortgage in their sixties.
It is confusing for people asking for help from this forum to give them advice, which though accurate, doesn't actually apply to people in their circumstances.
Nor has there been any suggestion that they will be applying for social housing. Or that they will be applying for a mortgage in their sixties.
It is confusing for people asking for help from this forum to give them advice, which though accurate, doesn't actually apply to people in their circumstances.
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Some people also like all the information so that they can make an informed decision.
I've checked about the welfare cap and it seems the UK now has two welfare caps. The household welfare cap and the cap on the UK's annual welfare bill that starts this tax year which will call for some tough decisions by whatever government had got elected.
Claiming DLA/PIP does give an exemption from the household welfare cap (I was wrong) but parliament did not give DLA/PIP an exemption from the other cap, the UK's annual welfare bill. Any of these benefits can be changed/removed to make sure the UK keeps to this new cap on the annual welfare bill
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...Accessible.pdf
Table B.1: Benefits and tax credits in scope of the welfare cap
In scope
Attendance Allowance
Bereavement benefits
Carer’s Allowance
Child Benefit
Christmas Bonus
Disability Living Allowance
Employment and Support Allowance
Financial Assistance Scheme
Housing Benefit (except HB passported from JSA)
Incapacity Benefit
Income Support
Industrial Injuries Benefits
In Work Credit
Maternity Allowance
Pension Credit
Personal Independence Payment
Personal Tax Credits
Return to Work Credit
Severe Disablement Allowance
Social Fund – Cold Weather Payments
Statutory Adoption Pay
Statutory Maternity Pay
Statutory Paternity Pay
Tax Free Childcare
Universal Credit (except payments to jobseekers)
Winter Fuel Payments
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#23
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Stop digging, formula.
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It is virtually impossible to reach the welfare cap unless you have dependent children, which is unlikely to apply to a couple in their sixties.
Nor has there been any suggestion that they will be applying for social housing. Or that they will be applying for a mortgage in their sixties.
It is confusing for people asking for help from this forum to give them advice, which though accurate, doesn't actually apply to people in their circumstances.
Nor has there been any suggestion that they will be applying for social housing. Or that they will be applying for a mortgage in their sixties.
It is confusing for people asking for help from this forum to give them advice, which though accurate, doesn't actually apply to people in their circumstances.
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Re: Returning to UK after 30 yrs..advice on getting elderly parents back.
Thanks everyone who posted. I appreciate the help.
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Hi and welcome to BE mojoman.
Have you any thoughts about where you may wish to settle? As someone has written, services and support can vary around the country.
My own MIL has advanced Altzheimers now at 86. Looking back , it onset in her 60's also. Probably because of a severe and neglected thyroid issue.
She is supported in her own home with her 78 yr old brother as carer. However, when the support was finally put in place it was also necessary for the family to choose which care home should would go to if the need arose. The first 3 choices, all close to her home and immediate family were and are oversubscribed so there was quite some decision making to do.
Funds impact on benefit assistance and some benefits seem to impact on others. Ii can be quite convoluted if you are not used to it all.
If you are confused or need further clarification over anything you have read, then please do feel able to ask away. Sometimes the written word can be rather .
Do get in touch with the Alzheimers Society and have a chat. They will be able to guide you if you intend for your parents to live with you and also if you will be looking for some form of independent living for them. Here in NZ we have retirement villages where small bungalows can be bought. It gives the unaffected spouse the chance to live a life whilst there is support for the husband/wife with an attached care facility. No idea if such places exist in the UK.
What type of work would you hope for. Something in tourism perhaps?
Have you any thoughts about where you may wish to settle? As someone has written, services and support can vary around the country.
My own MIL has advanced Altzheimers now at 86. Looking back , it onset in her 60's also. Probably because of a severe and neglected thyroid issue.
She is supported in her own home with her 78 yr old brother as carer. However, when the support was finally put in place it was also necessary for the family to choose which care home should would go to if the need arose. The first 3 choices, all close to her home and immediate family were and are oversubscribed so there was quite some decision making to do.
Funds impact on benefit assistance and some benefits seem to impact on others. Ii can be quite convoluted if you are not used to it all.
If you are confused or need further clarification over anything you have read, then please do feel able to ask away. Sometimes the written word can be rather .
Do get in touch with the Alzheimers Society and have a chat. They will be able to guide you if you intend for your parents to live with you and also if you will be looking for some form of independent living for them. Here in NZ we have retirement villages where small bungalows can be bought. It gives the unaffected spouse the chance to live a life whilst there is support for the husband/wife with an attached care facility. No idea if such places exist in the UK.
What type of work would you hope for. Something in tourism perhaps?
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Re: Returning to UK after 30 yrs..advice on getting elderly parents back.
Hi and welcome to BE mojoman.
Have you any thoughts about where you may wish to settle? As someone has written, services and support can vary around the country.
My own MIL has advanced Altzheimers now at 86. Looking back , it onset in her 60's also. Probably because of a severe and neglected thyroid issue.
She is supported in her own home with her 78 yr old brother as carer. However, when the support was finally put in place it was also necessary for the family to choose which care home should would go to if the need arose. The first 3 choices, all close to her home and immediate family were and are oversubscribed so there was quite some decision making to do.
Funds impact on benefit assistance and some benefits seem to impact on others. Ii can be quite convoluted if you are not used to it all.
If you are confused or need further clarification over anything you have read, then please do feel able to ask away. Sometimes the written word can be rather .
Do get in touch with the Alzheimers Society and have a chat. They will be able to guide you if you intend for your parents to live with you and also if you will be looking for some form of independent living for them. Here in NZ we have retirement villages where small bungalows can be bought. It gives the unaffected spouse the chance to live a life whilst there is support for the husband/wife with an attached care facility. No idea if such places exist in the UK.
What type of work would you hope for. Something in tourism perhaps?
Have you any thoughts about where you may wish to settle? As someone has written, services and support can vary around the country.
My own MIL has advanced Altzheimers now at 86. Looking back , it onset in her 60's also. Probably because of a severe and neglected thyroid issue.
She is supported in her own home with her 78 yr old brother as carer. However, when the support was finally put in place it was also necessary for the family to choose which care home should would go to if the need arose. The first 3 choices, all close to her home and immediate family were and are oversubscribed so there was quite some decision making to do.
Funds impact on benefit assistance and some benefits seem to impact on others. Ii can be quite convoluted if you are not used to it all.
If you are confused or need further clarification over anything you have read, then please do feel able to ask away. Sometimes the written word can be rather .
Do get in touch with the Alzheimers Society and have a chat. They will be able to guide you if you intend for your parents to live with you and also if you will be looking for some form of independent living for them. Here in NZ we have retirement villages where small bungalows can be bought. It gives the unaffected spouse the chance to live a life whilst there is support for the husband/wife with an attached care facility. No idea if such places exist in the UK.
What type of work would you hope for. Something in tourism perhaps?
I think its going to be best if I get over there first and start dealing with everything, I saw what a nightmare it was to get my dads pension sorted out (took almost two months of paperwork back and forth) so I feel face to face is probably the best way to go when it comes to getting things done?
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I think its going to be best if I get over there first and start dealing with everything, I saw what a nightmare it was to get my dads pension sorted out (took almost two months of paperwork back and forth) so I feel face to face is probably the best way to go when it comes to getting things done?
Talking of face to face, I've just remembered that the DWP do a thing now where they will come out to the home of UK pensioners and make sure they are getting all the help they can have. Don't forget to use them too for your parents.