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Old Aug 12th 2016, 8:20 pm
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When Obama was elected it stopped happening so much, but with the rise of Trump all bets are now off...[/QUOTE]

I think there are bigger problems than anti-US sentiment if Trump wins the election, haha. I say World War III is a possibility. that it's Clinton so as to avoid the inevitable train wreck of his victory.
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When Obama was elected it stopped happening so much, but with the rise of Trump all bets are now off..

I think there are bigger problems than anti-US sentiment if Trump wins the election, haha. I say World War III is a possibility. that it's Clinton so as to avoid the inevitable train wreck of his victory.
Oh god yes, that man with access to the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons scares the crap out of me.
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Oh god yes, that man with access to the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons scares the crap out of me.
Not to worry , by all indications Trump will lose. And even if he did, all these scare tactics from his opponents don't indicate anything to me that he would be more likely to use nuclear weapons than Clinton. Trump has already shown he wishes to improve relations with Russia. As far as China concerned they need the US market, US needs them to buy US government bonds. All Trump would need to do is to score a few points on trade concessions.
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WW3 started a while back. Trump will press the final button.
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Originally Posted by morpeth
Not to worry , by all indications Trump will lose. And even if he did, all these scare tactics from his opponents don't indicate anything to me that he would be more likely to use nuclear weapons than Clinton.
Except, perhaps that he's insane.

Trump has already shown he wishes to improve relations with Russian oligarchs.
FTFY.
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Except, perhaps that he's insane.



FTFY.
I'm pretty sure I read that he only wants to improve relations with Russia becuase Putin expressed support for Trump, which he did because Trump is ridiculous and could be a useful puppet for the Russian government.
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I'm pretty sure I read that he only wants to improve relations with Russia becuase Putin expressed support for Trump, which he did because Trump is ridiculous and could be a useful puppet for the Russian government.
With Trump's ego doubt he would be puppet of anyone.

The establishment of course likes to demonize Russia and play tough with words and sanctions. Considering the continued growth in Chinese military power and economics, the mess in the Middle East, the possible emergence of Eurabia in the coming decades, maybe a closer relationship with Russia makes sense. Cant be any worse than the Clinton approach to Russia or any where else in the world.
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With Trump's ego doubt he would be puppet of anyone.

The establishment of course likes to demonize Russia and play tough with words and sanctions. Considering the continued growth in Chinese military power and economics, the mess in the Middle East, the possible emergence of Eurabia in the coming decades, maybe a closer relationship with Russia makes sense. Cant be any worse than the Clinton approach to Russia or any where else in the world.
Seriously?

Putin is a murderer, including murder on British soil. He is bombing Syria, partly to deliberately exacerbate the refugee crisis in Europe. He has territorial ambitions in Europe, some of which could result in Britain going to war, as part of the NATO alliance.

I don't think you can demonize Putin enough. Personally, I think the best, and most accurate way to think of him is as Sauron brooding in his dark tower in Mordor.
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Seriously?

Putin is a murderer, including murder on British soil. He is bombing Syria, partly to deliberately exacerbate the refugee crisis in Europe. He has territorial ambitions in Europe, some of which could result in Britain going to war, as part of the NATO alliance.

I don't think you can demonize Putin enough. Personally, I think the best, and most accurate way to think of him is as Sauron brooding in his dark tower in Mordor.
I am not saying Putin is without blemishes but simply it maybe a better long term policy to establish better relations with Russia as the US may need Russia as an ally in the future. The US and the UK have supported regimes in the past for strategic reasons. Kissinger and Nixon opened up relations with China after 25 years of despicable and widespread human right abuses effecting millions, by some estimates more Chinese died from such abuses than did in the Holocaust.
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Yikes this has turned into another US election thread.
Sorry, my fault for mentioning the T-word.
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You want to see a REAL murderer with blood on his hands - have a look at Mr Blair !
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Scot 47, You don't think Putin is a 'real' murderer?

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I am not saying Putin is without blemishes but simply it maybe a better long term policy to establish better relations with Russia as the US may need Russia as an ally in the future. The US and the UK have supported regimes in the past for strategic reasons. Kissinger and Nixon opened up relations with China after 25 years of despicable and widespread human right abuses effecting millions, by some estimates more Chinese died from such abuses than did in the Holocaust.
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Originally Posted by morpeth
I am not saying Putin is without blemishes but simply it maybe a better long term policy to establish better relations with Russia as the US may need Russia as an ally in the future. The US and the UK have supported regimes in the past for strategic reasons. Kissinger and Nixon opened up relations with China after 25 years of despicable and widespread human right abuses effecting millions, by some estimates more Chinese died from such abuses than did in the Holocaust.

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I think what Morpeth has in mind are the Great Leap Forward in the late 1950s and the Cultural Revolution in the late 1960s.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution


The link above will tell you the histories about these two Communist Chinese political campaigns.
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I think what Morpeth has in mind are the Great Leap Forward in the late 1950s and the Cultural Revolution in the late 1960s.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution


The link above will tell you the histories about these two Communist Chinese political campaigns.
I am old enough to remember both quite clearly thanks. To the best of my knowledge no european jews and very few gypsies were killed in either event.
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