Managing US IRA from the UK
#16
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Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
I hope you're doing the currency exchange using Transferwise at under 1%, rather than getting dinged 4% by the old Steam Age Banks.
#18
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
Have you tried xendpay? They seem to give better rates than transferwise.
#21
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
Vanguard have told me that there's no restriction on withdrawals and have even told me that non US citizens who invoke the treaty will get 0% withholding. US citizens will have to deal with the usual withholding rules and should file a W9.
#22
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
I just looked, $1000 = £743.14
Change the country at the top from UK to US.
Last edited by mrken30; Sep 28th 2017 at 2:53 pm.
#24
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
On occasions like this I employ the rule of 3! Call Vanguard 3 times and select the best answer. It would seem creating a US address is fairly simple:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mail...hrome&ie=UTF-8
And sometimes oversharing your plans, intentions etc is not for the best. The least Vanguard knows the better when trying to accomplish something. Please note I am not advocating economy of truth to the point of dishonesty. I am suggesting that 'oversharing' information can sometimes be more detrimental than good. It's like when you go to the DMV or DVLA you do not volunteer any information other than that asked for right!
https://www.google.com/search?q=mail...hrome&ie=UTF-8
And sometimes oversharing your plans, intentions etc is not for the best. The least Vanguard knows the better when trying to accomplish something. Please note I am not advocating economy of truth to the point of dishonesty. I am suggesting that 'oversharing' information can sometimes be more detrimental than good. It's like when you go to the DMV or DVLA you do not volunteer any information other than that asked for right!
#25
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
To make it clear we are currently resident in the USA and are trying to open a new US IRA account before we leave. We would then immediately, i.e while we are still in the US, roll my wife's IRAs into that. All because the local bank that currently hold the IRAs will not allow us to have a UK address.
Vanguard said they will not allow us to open an account in the US while we are still here, move to the UK and then manage it from the UK. This seems contrary to the experience here - although I note the rules may have changed in July. However maybe we got a misinformed advisor.
After a few hours on the phone to HSBC USA:
We cannot set up a managed IRA account with HSBC.
HSBC are unsure if we can set up a new US checking account and then subsequently open a self-managed IRA account; and still manage it from the UK in the future. The problem there is that they know that someone with an existing account could have a self-managed account and be in the UK (as some of you maybe do). But they just don't know if the July ruling changes that for accounts set up now.They are looking into that.
It has been just another day on the phone to banks!
And still confused.
Thank you for your support.
Vanguard said they will not allow us to open an account in the US while we are still here, move to the UK and then manage it from the UK. This seems contrary to the experience here - although I note the rules may have changed in July. However maybe we got a misinformed advisor.
After a few hours on the phone to HSBC USA:
We cannot set up a managed IRA account with HSBC.
HSBC are unsure if we can set up a new US checking account and then subsequently open a self-managed IRA account; and still manage it from the UK in the future. The problem there is that they know that someone with an existing account could have a self-managed account and be in the UK (as some of you maybe do). But they just don't know if the July ruling changes that for accounts set up now.They are looking into that.
It has been just another day on the phone to banks!
And still confused.
Thank you for your support.
#26
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
http://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-5...1k-ira-901989/
#27
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
That is the approach this poster took, but it did not help. Unfortunately they did not choose Vanguard.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-5...1k-ira-901989/
http://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-5...1k-ira-901989/
Last edited by vikingsail; Sep 28th 2017 at 8:53 pm.
#28
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
I think that choosing Vanguard is a smart move. At the very least they allow you to buy on the LSE.
I am not sure what would stop you managing your account online. It may not be 100% , I have no idea. But if you did not say anything, there is no reason they would stop your online access.
I am not sure what would stop you managing your account online. It may not be 100% , I have no idea. But if you did not say anything, there is no reason they would stop your online access.
#29
Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
It is perfectly possible for them to track the IP address of where you are logging on, and I believe it is already fairly common for financial institutions to do so, so they can check for people accessing their services from Iran, contrary to OFAC sanctions. If they have an objection to accounts being "managed" from outside the US then it is only a small step for them to track the IP addesses used to log into their system. ...... To be clear, I have never heard of IP tracking being used to identity and close a non-US managed account, but it is possible.
Last edited by Pulaski; Sep 29th 2017 at 2:46 am.
#30
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Re: Managing US IRA from the UK
It is perfectly possible for them to track the IP address of where you are logging on, and I believe it is already fairly common for financial institutions to do so, so they can check for people accessing their services from Iran, contrary to OFAC sanctions. If they have an objection to accounts being "managed" from outside the US then it is only a small step for them to track the IP addesses used to log into their system. ...... To be clear, I have never heard of IP tracking being used to identity and close a non-US managed account, but it is possible.
Last year I noticed that my Vanguard app on my iPhone had taken to always have me enter my password instead accepting my fingerprint like it used to. After much time dealing with the support line I was put in contact with a more knowledgeable technical person who told me that it was because I was accessing it overseas. Even using VPN to connect to the USA to try and fool the app did not work.