whocares386

I appreciate all of your valuable comments for me.

I'm sure studying in Turkey is not a good idea. As I said before, Anatolian culture can't teach me science, there is no debate habit in the Anatolia. Education has been getting worse since 1950s.

Studying in Turkey will be easy for me but I don't want to go to the university to get a degree, I want to have deep knowledge in computer science, theoretical computing.. etc.

So, which Anglosphere country will be good choice for me ? I think increasing of Muslims in Europe is one of the most dangerous thing in the Europe especially in the future Britain not seems good, according to those results:

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I also have no idea what do Brits think about immigrants ? I know British society have no problem with secular, atheist people (correct me if I'm wrong).

Should I consider to go to the USA ? There is no racism against to white immigrants because it is a country which is founded by immigrants and also it is a country which has Separation of church and state principal. New England territory seems proper for me.

spouse of scouse

Must be troll week.

BEVS

Germany seems to be the country suggested to you as a good choice.

Richard8655

Well, we all tried with the best of our collective knowledge and wisdom.

I don't know what local culture has to do with computer science. Programming/computer engineering (hardware and software) are pretty much standard everywhere and for that reason a valuable international skillset. To say you don't want a degree eliminates the skilled worker option by and large... pretty much the best route and best way to get the deep theoretical knowledge you're looking for.

scot47

Get a degree in Turkey and then think of moving.

holly_1948

Agreed.
But if Turkey is impossible for some political reason, and you have very little money then look to Eastern Europe where costs are low and scholarships exist.

Thairetired2016

Germany wants skilled people with a degree who can speak the language.

whocares386

I'll apply for the Diversity Lottery for the U.S when I'm 18 years old, maybe I can get it. I'll try that 2-3 times. I also will be saved money.

I think USA will be better choice for me, Britain seems quite nice and it has secular society but it's population increasing and it is not a big country especially Muslims increasing in there.

In the USA, New England territory seems proper for me at least schools have no problem with evolution I heard southeastern states called as a Bible belt. Some of them have no evolution curriculum. But I know north-east expensive in the U.S.

Also which state would you suggest me in the New England territory ? New Hampshire, Massachusetts?

Thanks.

Novocastrian

I now think so too.

Gozitangoinghome99, now known simply as Gozit, was the last 17 year old we had on here. He might see this thread and reflect.

whocares386

Can you tell me some logical reasons that makes me troll ? What am I supposed to ask here ? I'm just looking legal ways, except of the education and Diversity Lottery is one of them. I'll go to the university but it is just after the permanent residence because I'll be needed money for my education.

Anyway, I appreciate all of the guys-ladies here that helped me here. Thank you very much.

I'll move to somehow to the an Anglosphere country. I'll be alone in this journey, I'll try to make logical decisions on this journey.

This is my last post here, I won't write here again.

Take care of yourself.

Regards,

LondonSquirrel

In case you do see this, just wanted to say that the US is the same as the UK, in that before they grant you a student visa, they will want to see that you have enough money to pay for your tuition and living expenses. (Not cheap as a non resident). You may be able to get a bursary. Certainly the university where I work give out bursaries. But you wouldn't get it until you arrive, so you wouldn't be able to use it for the student visa. At least I think so. You could try researching it. Maybe a letter confirming that you are getting a bursary would work for the student visa. Massachusetts is a great place to study, but I believe that if you want to work part time to supplement your income, the US student visa is more strict about that. I could be wrong but I think working is allowed on-campus only. The UK student visa allows you to work up to 20 hours a week in most any job.

I'm not sure why people have decided you are a troll. I think it's because you are from a Muslim country but you don't like Islam. However I know that is not so rare. The guy who runs our local cafe is from Algeria. But he hates Arabic even though he's fluent in it, and prefers French. He sees himself as European rather than African, and I have heard it said that most Tunisians feel this way too.