Heading home after 35 years
Nov 14th 2014, 11:03 am
#16
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
Decided on the spur of the moment to get tickets for the QM2 next week and head back to the UK after 35 years in the USA.
Managed to sell everything up this past week and shipped some stuff back, but basically starting over again when we get there.
Crazy? probably, but life is an adventure anyway.
It has been interesting to read some of the stories about folks moving back and we have learned a lot about their experiences and some of the pitfalls that they have encountered.
Stay tuned for updates...................................
Managed to sell everything up this past week and shipped some stuff back, but basically starting over again when we get there.
Crazy? probably, but life is an adventure anyway.
It has been interesting to read some of the stories about folks moving back and we have learned a lot about their experiences and some of the pitfalls that they have encountered.
Stay tuned for updates...................................
Nov 14th 2014, 11:48 am
#17
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
Hi there
This is my 1st ever post on this site.
Im also leaving after being in SA since 1982 as ive had more than enough.
My partner wants to come with me but is South African and travels on a SA passport, weve been together nearly 10 yrs.
Any ideas on how she would be fixed to come with me?
What problems, if any, would she be faced with?
I would appreciate any feed back on this.Tks.
This is my 1st ever post on this site.
Im also leaving after being in SA since 1982 as ive had more than enough.
My partner wants to come with me but is South African and travels on a SA passport, weve been together nearly 10 yrs.
Any ideas on how she would be fixed to come with me?
What problems, if any, would she be faced with?
I would appreciate any feed back on this.Tks.
Nov 14th 2014, 1:05 pm
#18
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
Hi There Springbok,
Firstly why have you had enough ? just curious, we arrived in 80' but now retired I think that its time to head on back to the Old Country,
I'm married to a South African back in 69' she was a Backpacker whom I met in Jersey, she automatically became a British subject when we were married,
I'm not too sure now with all the new Immigration rules, best to check on UKGOV.ORG, I'm sure you will come right there,
Firstly why have you had enough ? just curious, we arrived in 80' but now retired I think that its time to head on back to the Old Country,
I'm married to a South African back in 69' she was a Backpacker whom I met in Jersey, she automatically became a British subject when we were married,
I'm not too sure now with all the new Immigration rules, best to check on UKGOV.ORG, I'm sure you will come right there,
Nov 14th 2014, 1:24 pm
#19
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,848
Re: Heading home after 35 years
Hi there
This is my 1st ever post on this site.
Im also leaving after being in SA since 1982 as ive had more than enough.
My partner wants to come with me but is South African and travels on a SA passport, weve been together nearly 10 yrs.
Any ideas on how she would be fixed to come with me?
What problems, if any, would she be faced with?
I would appreciate any feed back on this.Tks.
This is my 1st ever post on this site.
Im also leaving after being in SA since 1982 as ive had more than enough.
My partner wants to come with me but is South African and travels on a SA passport, weve been together nearly 10 yrs.
Any ideas on how she would be fixed to come with me?
What problems, if any, would she be faced with?
I would appreciate any feed back on this.Tks.
One of the 'stickies' ie. frequently asked and important information at the top of the subsection is listed here:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/citiz...mation-830478/
Nov 15th 2014, 2:56 am
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
I am also returning to the UK in March next year after 35 years in South Africa. British born and bred, always had a British [now EU!] passport. I received a scary email yesterday telling me that a friend of a friend, who also had lived here about 30 years, arrived back in the UK on a one-way ticket [as will I] and was told he now had no residency rights and the authorities put him on a plane back to South Africa. Could this be possible? I am now very worried about it. Comments, please/
The holder of a valid British Passport cannot be denied entry to the UK by an immigration officer in any circumstance.
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen
Nov 15th 2014, 7:51 am
#21
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
The holder of a valid British Passport cannot be denied entry to the UK by an immigration officer in any circumstance.
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen
But isn't there a difference between a British *Subject* and a British Citizen?
I think the eligibility for UK residence may differ?
Nov 15th 2014, 8:36 am
#22
Was in Canada, now home.
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
I don't think the term 'British subject' has any meaning in law. But the OP has a British (EU) passport, which means he is a British citizen.
Nov 15th 2014, 9:37 am
#23
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
I don't think that could possible be right, never heard that before!! but will have a look at the ''Net'' as I receive my U.K. Pension here in S.A. they said that when I return, they will increase my pension up to what it should be,
Never any mention on Residency Rights.
Never any mention on Residency Rights.
However I am able to draw the Australian Age Pension, albeit without Supplements, but unfortunately I'm at the mercy of exchange rates which have lost me £2000 per year over the past two years.
Nov 15th 2014, 9:43 am
#24
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
OK - I've just looked it up on the official UK government website.
There are 6 different types of British Nationality. These are:
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-...ality/overview
This is the definition of a British Subject:
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-...ritish-subject
It says that British Subjects are usually subject to immigration controls and don't have the automatic right to live or work in the UK (there are only rare exceptions to this) - and also not recognised as a UK National by the European Union (EU)
Perhaps the wife of 'Flying Enterprise' should consider applying for British Citizenship if she is eligible?
https://www.gov.uk/register-british-citizen
There are 6 different types of British Nationality. These are:
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-...ality/overview
This is the definition of a British Subject:
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-...ritish-subject
It says that British Subjects are usually subject to immigration controls and don't have the automatic right to live or work in the UK (there are only rare exceptions to this) - and also not recognised as a UK National by the European Union (EU)
Perhaps the wife of 'Flying Enterprise' should consider applying for British Citizenship if she is eligible?
https://www.gov.uk/register-british-citizen
Nov 15th 2014, 9:49 am
#25
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...279885/bn3.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/search?q=british+subject
Last edited by not2old; Nov 15th 2014 at 9:52 am.
Nov 15th 2014, 11:42 am
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
Nov 15th 2014, 12:49 pm
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
Hi E M, Yes my wife's passport reads U.K Citizen as she also receives a U.K pension.
Nov 15th 2014, 1:02 pm
#28
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
I was wrong to say that the term British subject has no meaning in law. Nowadays it still applies to people formerly referred to as 'British subjects without citizenship'' which includes a limited and dwindling group of people from Ireland, Pakistan and India, and anyone born in Ireland before 1949.
So, I suggest it is muddying the waters, rather, to bring it up in relation to ex-pats in SA.
So, I suggest it is muddying the waters, rather, to bring it up in relation to ex-pats in SA.
Nov 15th 2014, 1:53 pm
#29
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Re: Heading home after 35 years
I was wrong to say that the term British subject has no meaning in law. Nowadays it still applies to people formerly referred to as 'British subjects without citizenship'' which includes a limited and dwindling group of people from Ireland, Pakistan and India, and anyone born in Ireland before 1949.
So, I suggest it is muddying the waters, rather, to bring it up in relation to ex-pats in SA.
So, I suggest it is muddying the waters, rather, to bring it up in relation to ex-pats in SA.
Then there is those covered under the 'Good Friday' agreement ...
All for nort, I agree, lets get back to the OP.
Last edited by not2old; Nov 15th 2014 at 1:56 pm.
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