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21st Century Socialist Man

Old Sep 29th 2016, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
It's one thing that David Cameron got right after the referendum, he told him, for gods sake GO.
And who went?
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
And who went?
Cameron went, but he did give absolutely correct advice to Corbyn with that comment.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
Jeremy Corbyn is a step too far to the left, even for this dyed in the wool Labour supporter. The current state of the Party saddens me.
Really? What saddens me is the rump self-preserver MP's left over from the disaster of Blair's NULabour.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Really? What saddens me is the rump self-preserver MP's left over from the disaster of Blair's NULabour.
Yes, really. I have a bit of granola stuck in my teeth and now I have to climb the stairs and brush again, that saddens me too.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
Yes, really. I have a bit of granola stuck in my teeth and now I have to climb the stairs and brush again, that saddens me too.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 8:06 am
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I wasn't saying that I trust May over Corbyn, on the NHS or anything else. But the public do. It is really extraordinary for a Tory prime minister to be trusted more than the Labour leader on this issue, and illustrates how big a mountain Corbyn has got to climb to make himself electable.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by Editha
I wasn't saying that I trust May over Corbyn, on the NHS or anything else. But the public do. It is really extraordinary for a Tory prime minister to be trusted more than the Labour leader on this issue, and illustrates how big a mountain Corbyn has got to climb to make himself electable.
One more distorted opinion poll.

Stay tuned.
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
One more distorted opinion poll.

Stay tuned.
On who would make the best Prime Minister Theresa May leads Jeremy Corbyn by 58% to 12% with YouGov, by 58% to 19% with ComRes. YouGov currently give the Conservatives an 18 point lead on running the economy, when ComRes last asked in March the Tories had a 16 point lead. Looking at MORI’s long term approval trackers Jeremy Corbyn’s net approval rating is minus 41 – already pushing at Ed Miliband’s lowest of minus 44 (and those depths took Miliband years). Corbyn’s favourability rating in ComRes last week was minus 28, worse than everyone else they asked about but Trump.
How is Jeremy Corbyn really doing in the polls?
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But what do you really think?
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 11:42 am
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I'm happy that Labour actually has some left wing policies now rather than the neo-liberal stew of the Blair years. However, the recent targeting of Corbyn's opposition and attempts to silence it, and the lame BREXIT performance of Corbyn mean that I would probably vote Lib-Dem if in the UK.
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
While May is completely unelected. The "unelectable" mantra is getting a bit stale, let's just wait and see (or rather not wait, but get involved). ....
Well I am glad that Corbyn has been reconfirmed as the Labour party leader and I am looking forward to a favourable outcome when he contests the next general election.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 2:19 pm
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Well I am glad that Corbyn has been reconfirmed as the Labour party leader and I am looking forward to a favourable outcome when he contests the next general election.
Excellent. We agree then.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by nun
I'm happy that Labour actually has some left wing policies now rather than the neo-liberal stew of the Blair years. However, the recent targeting of Corbyn's opposition and attempts to silence it, and the lame BREXIT performance of Corbyn mean that I would probably vote Lib-Dem if in the UK.
Haven't you got the "targeting" a bit ass backwards?
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by nun
I'm happy that Labour actually has some left wing policies now rather than the neo-liberal stew of the Blair years. However, the recent targeting of Corbyn's opposition and attempts to silence it, and the lame BREXIT performance of Corbyn mean that I would probably vote Lib-Dem if in the UK.
Yes, quite, there is absolutely no point in getting elected if you have to become everything you despise in order to get elected.
Blair did that and it got us all where we are now.

"Old Labour, New start". Reinstate the party of Hardie, Attlee, Bevan, Wilson.

The world will look a very different place by 2020 in any case. There is a near certainty that the world financial system will have collapsed by then.
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Old Sep 29th 2016, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by holly_1948
Yes, quite, there is absolutely no point in getting elected if you have to become everything you despise in order to get elected.
Blair did that and it got us all where we are now.

"Old Labour, New start". Reinstate the party of Hardie, Attlee, Bevan, Wilson, Corbyn
FTFY.

The world will look a very different place by 2020 in any case. There is a near certainty that the world financial system will have collapsed by then.
Hmmm.
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