scrubbedexpat141

4th date now set.

nonthaburi

If you get the chance, take a wander around Riyadh Front or The Zone to see how things are moving. Both pleasant places in Saudi terms to grab a bite and a coffee, and now the nights are cooler it's nice to sit out and chill for a while.

scrubbedexpat141

Thanks
The Zone is pretty close to where I'm staying. Having not been before, would be good to go see these sorts of things.

I'm assuming Uber / Careem is the way forward?

nonthaburi

I'm always driving but I'm guessing Careen or something. There's a great Italian I can recommend a few doors down from Catch 22, can't remember the name. And Self made coffee the other side of the road from The Zone gets heaving at night with the young crowd.

UKMS

This will allow UAE nationals and residents to fly to UK without having to quarantine
https://gn24.ae/c555864fd9f7000

This might help the OP to decide

Benny80

Thanks yes saw this news come out over the weekend. Key thing will be if the UK recognise vaccines administered here in the UAE, and if they do will it be all all vaccines or only the Western ones.

UKMS

I took this article as meaning that they will recognise those of us vaccinated here……. Which vaccines remains to be seen…… This is different to the UK news about travel from there.

Millhouse

No one in the west is going to recognise sinopharm for political reasons.

weasel decentral

Sinopharm is accepted in Europe by 10 or so countries because it's on the WHO approved list, but they need to get EMA approval for the rest of the countries which they may not have already applied for. However in the spirit of Brexit, UK seems to have a separate acceptance list to both the EMA and WHO

UKMS

In fairness most other countries don’t just accept what is on the EMA and WHO list for travel.

weasel decentral

Final decision remains with the individual country in all cases of course, though verification through a recognised regulatory body seems like a good starting place.

UKMS

So are you saying that every country should just accept what the WHO approves as a starting point ?

weasel decentral

I've clearly said the final decision remains with the country, otherwise a vaccine that has already passed some kind of criteria such as WHO or EMA is a good starting point for consideration. Is English your first language?

UKMS

My question was about the starting point not the final decision, a perfectly reasonable question …… and what has my first language got to do with vaccines?

weasel decentral

It of course has to do with your understanding of what I have written, and now you are being deliberately obtuse. But yes you are correct the UK should start with all the proposed vaccines that have neither WHO or EMA approval, that's the best way forward.