report marriage fraud?
#1
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report marriage fraud?
we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for greencard.
you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity or suspected fake marriage?
that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in that way...
so..
now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
did the medical check...etc.
they are not living together currently...
but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to show to INS.
i am confused...
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??
you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity or suspected fake marriage?
that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in that way...
so..
now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
did the medical check...etc.
they are not living together currently...
but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to show to INS.
i am confused...
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??
#2
Re: report marriage fraud?
Originally Posted by Aki Yoki
i am confused...
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??
Unless this somehow affects you directly (which it doesn't seem to), personally I'd stay out of it.
Rene
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Re: report marriage fraud?
Originally Posted by Aki Yoki
we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for greencard.
you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity or suspected fake marriage?
that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in that way...
so..
now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
did the medical check...etc.
they are not living together currently...
but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to show to INS.
i am confused...
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??
you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity or suspected fake marriage?
that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in that way...
so..
now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
did the medical check...etc.
they are not living together currently...
but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to show to INS.
i am confused...
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??
There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing to do with you.
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Re: report marriage fraud?
Mind your own business.
Elvira wrote:
> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
> > greencard.
> >
> > you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity
> > or suspected fake marriage?
> >
> > that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth
> > like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
> > and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off
> > campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in
> > that way...
> >
> > so..
> > now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
> > did the medical check...etc.
> >
> > they are not living together currently...
> > but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to
> > show to INS.
> >
> > i am confused...
> > what's the right thing to do?
> > let it go this illegal activity?
> > if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to
> > provide?
> >
> > anyone got an idea??
> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing to
> do with you.
>
> --
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Elvira wrote:
> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
> > greencard.
> >
> > you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity
> > or suspected fake marriage?
> >
> > that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth
> > like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
> > and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off
> > campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in
> > that way...
> >
> > so..
> > now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
> > did the medical check...etc.
> >
> > they are not living together currently...
> > but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to
> > show to INS.
> >
> > i am confused...
> > what's the right thing to do?
> > let it go this illegal activity?
> > if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to
> > provide?
> >
> > anyone got an idea??
> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing to
> do with you.
>
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Re: report marriage fraud?
Originally Posted by John
Mind your own business.
Elvira wrote:.........
Elvira wrote:.........
In fact it was me who first told the OP to mind his own business...
#6
Re: report marriage fraud?
Originally Posted by Elvira
Don't put words in my mouth FFS! I wrote nothing of the sort you quoted me as saying!!!
In fact it was me who first told the OP to mind his own business...
In fact it was me who first told the OP to mind his own business...
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Re: report marriage fraud?
Yeah mind your own business. Their marriage has no effect on you.
John wrote:
>Mind your own business.
>> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
>> > greencard.
>[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing to
>> do with you.
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John wrote:
>Mind your own business.
>> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
>> > greencard.
>[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing to
>> do with you.
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Re: report marriage fraud?
"Euripidi via ImmigrationKB.com" <u21224@uwe> wrote in message
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> Yeah mind your own business. Their marriage has no effect on you.
> John wrote:
> >Mind your own business.
> >
> >> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
> >> > greencard.
> >[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> >> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing
to
> >> do with you.
True their "marriage" per se has nothing to do with him.
But how about immigration fraud? Every US citizen and every
legal immigrant ultimately pays for immigration fraud, ie illegal
immigration.
And illegal immigration is indeed everybody's business.
Having said that, I doubt USCIS will do anything about it unless the
couple bomb the application or interview.
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> Yeah mind your own business. Their marriage has no effect on you.
> John wrote:
> >Mind your own business.
> >
> >> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
> >> > greencard.
> >[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> >> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing
to
> >> do with you.
True their "marriage" per se has nothing to do with him.
But how about immigration fraud? Every US citizen and every
legal immigrant ultimately pays for immigration fraud, ie illegal
immigration.
And illegal immigration is indeed everybody's business.
Having said that, I doubt USCIS will do anything about it unless the
couple bomb the application or interview.
#9
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Re: report marriage fraud?
I do agree with you that we all have a civic duty of reporting any illegal
activities.
This person though is probbaly jealous and probbably is illegaly here him or
herself.
His or her cousin maybe found someone he or she loves. This is just a theory
but dont believe everything people say.We tend to not say the whole truth.
Putain wrote:
>> Yeah mind your own business. Their marriage has no effect on you.
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> >> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing to
>> >> do with you.
>True their "marriage" per se has nothing to do with him.
>But how about immigration fraud? Every US citizen and every
>legal immigrant ultimately pays for immigration fraud, ie illegal
>immigration.
>And illegal immigration is indeed everybody's business.
>Having said that, I doubt USCIS will do anything about it unless the
>couple bomb the application or interview.
--
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activities.
This person though is probbaly jealous and probbably is illegaly here him or
herself.
His or her cousin maybe found someone he or she loves. This is just a theory
but dont believe everything people say.We tend to not say the whole truth.
Putain wrote:
>> Yeah mind your own business. Their marriage has no effect on you.
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> >> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has nothing to
>> >> do with you.
>True their "marriage" per se has nothing to do with him.
>But how about immigration fraud? Every US citizen and every
>legal immigrant ultimately pays for immigration fraud, ie illegal
>immigration.
>And illegal immigration is indeed everybody's business.
>Having said that, I doubt USCIS will do anything about it unless the
>couple bomb the application or interview.
--
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Re: report marriage fraud?
Originally Posted by Putain
But how about immigration fraud?
And illegal immigration is indeed everybody's business.
Ian
#11
Re: report marriage fraud?
IMHO
You will just cause trouble within your family if you ratted out your cousin's boyfriend. I mean, take this out to its logical conclusion. What if he gets deported and permanently barred from the US because of you, and it's her one true love and now she has to choose between the US and him? You would never hear the end of it from your cousin's side of the family.
These things leak out. Just for trying to get him deported you would never hear the end of it.
Legally you will not be in trouble for not telling on him. It's not your civic duty.
If it were me I would not report him. I also did not tell on the kids who cheated on the test in class. My mom did not reward me for tattle-taling on my sister when we were growing up. Just how I was brought up I guess. I believe in karma and letting the universe settle the score. I am not the judge of anyone.
You will just cause trouble within your family if you ratted out your cousin's boyfriend. I mean, take this out to its logical conclusion. What if he gets deported and permanently barred from the US because of you, and it's her one true love and now she has to choose between the US and him? You would never hear the end of it from your cousin's side of the family.
These things leak out. Just for trying to get him deported you would never hear the end of it.
Legally you will not be in trouble for not telling on him. It's not your civic duty.
If it were me I would not report him. I also did not tell on the kids who cheated on the test in class. My mom did not reward me for tattle-taling on my sister when we were growing up. Just how I was brought up I guess. I believe in karma and letting the universe settle the score. I am not the judge of anyone.
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Re: report marriage fraud?
"ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> > "Euripidi via ImmigrationKB.com" <u21224@uwe> wrote in message
> > news:612523afc60de@uwe...
> > > Yeah mind your own business. Their marriage has no effect on you.
> > > John wrote:
> > > >Mind your own business.
> > > >
> > > >> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
> > > >> > greencard.
> > > >[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> > > >> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has
> > > >> nothing
> > to
> > > >> do with you.
> >
> > True their "marriage" per se has nothing to do with him.
> > But how about immigration fraud? Every US citizen and every
> > legal immigrant ultimately pays for immigration fraud, ie illegal
> > immigration.
> > And illegal immigration is indeed everybody's business.
> > Having said that, I doubt USCIS will do anything about it unless the
> > couple bomb the application or interview.
> It is not illegal to marry with the intent to get a green card as long
> as getting the GC is not the *only* reason for the marriage.
> Just to set the record straight for you and everyone else who has been
> listening to far too much media hype... immigration, by definition, is a
> legal process. Therefore, there is no such thing as "illegal
> immigration". There is "immigration" and there is "illegal border
> crossing". By the same token, while someone can be an "illegal alien",
> they can not be an "illegal immigrant". Semantics? Perhaps, but an
> important distinction nevertheless.
> Ian
Good point.
The original poster's words; "we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married
to a USC woman for greencard."
does not make clear whether or not there is any basis for this marriage
beyond the desire to obtain a GC.
Furthermore, nothing in the OP's post indicates illegal entry into the US by
any party.
In principle I agree that there is no such thing as "illegal immigration"
however the mass media have effectively caused this
word to cover illegal entry, over-stays and undocumented aliens, anyone not
lawfully admitted and residing in the US,
etc etc. Which brings us to the trerm "unlawful immigrant" which "may" be
better than "illegal immigrant".
news:[email protected] m...
> > "Euripidi via ImmigrationKB.com" <u21224@uwe> wrote in message
> > news:612523afc60de@uwe...
> > > Yeah mind your own business. Their marriage has no effect on you.
> > > John wrote:
> > > >Mind your own business.
> > > >
> > > >> > we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for
> > > >> > greencard.
> > > >[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> > > >> There is only one answer to this: MYOB. Because it really has
> > > >> nothing
> > to
> > > >> do with you.
> >
> > True their "marriage" per se has nothing to do with him.
> > But how about immigration fraud? Every US citizen and every
> > legal immigrant ultimately pays for immigration fraud, ie illegal
> > immigration.
> > And illegal immigration is indeed everybody's business.
> > Having said that, I doubt USCIS will do anything about it unless the
> > couple bomb the application or interview.
> It is not illegal to marry with the intent to get a green card as long
> as getting the GC is not the *only* reason for the marriage.
> Just to set the record straight for you and everyone else who has been
> listening to far too much media hype... immigration, by definition, is a
> legal process. Therefore, there is no such thing as "illegal
> immigration". There is "immigration" and there is "illegal border
> crossing". By the same token, while someone can be an "illegal alien",
> they can not be an "illegal immigrant". Semantics? Perhaps, but an
> important distinction nevertheless.
> Ian
Good point.
The original poster's words; "we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married
to a USC woman for greencard."
does not make clear whether or not there is any basis for this marriage
beyond the desire to obtain a GC.
Furthermore, nothing in the OP's post indicates illegal entry into the US by
any party.
In principle I agree that there is no such thing as "illegal immigration"
however the mass media have effectively caused this
word to cover illegal entry, over-stays and undocumented aliens, anyone not
lawfully admitted and residing in the US,
etc etc. Which brings us to the trerm "unlawful immigrant" which "may" be
better than "illegal immigrant".
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Re: report marriage fraud?
"Putain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:dnYfg.15$LN1.4@trndny01...
|
| In principle I agree that there is no such thing as "illegal immigration"
| however the mass media have effectively caused this
| word to cover illegal entry, over-stays and undocumented aliens, anyone
not
| lawfully admitted and residing in the US,
| etc etc. Which brings us to the trerm "unlawful immigrant" which "may" be
| better than "illegal immigrant".
|
.......which brings us to the question: what's the difference between "
unlawful" and illegal" ?
Is there anything illegal which is not unlawful?
Is there anything unlawful which is not illegal?
Political correctness is indeed illogical!
news:dnYfg.15$LN1.4@trndny01...
|
| In principle I agree that there is no such thing as "illegal immigration"
| however the mass media have effectively caused this
| word to cover illegal entry, over-stays and undocumented aliens, anyone
not
| lawfully admitted and residing in the US,
| etc etc. Which brings us to the trerm "unlawful immigrant" which "may" be
| better than "illegal immigrant".
|
.......which brings us to the question: what's the difference between "
unlawful" and illegal" ?
Is there anything illegal which is not unlawful?
Is there anything unlawful which is not illegal?
Political correctness is indeed illogical!
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Re: report marriage fraud?
Originally Posted by Voltes34
Is there anything illegal which is not unlawful?
Is there anything unlawful which is not illegal?
Is there anything unlawful which is not illegal?
Ian
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Re: report marriage fraud?
May I just say that I have the biggest respect for everyone's politeness towards Aki Yoki. But let me also say that I couldn't be more disgusted with someone like him/her. He would have been a fabulous citizen in regimes like the German one during the Fourties.
I know this is not a helpful posting, so I apologize for that. But to be honest, it helped me. Thank God for the freedom of speech. As long as people like Aki Yoki don't manage to get rid of it.
I know this is not a helpful posting, so I apologize for that. But to be honest, it helped me. Thank God for the freedom of speech. As long as people like Aki Yoki don't manage to get rid of it.
Originally Posted by Aki Yoki
we found out my cousin(non-USC)'s BF married to a USC woman for greencard.
you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity or suspected fake marriage?
that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in that way...
so..
now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
did the medical check...etc.
they are not living together currently...
but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to show to INS.
i am confused...
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??
you think...i have to report this as an illegal immigration activity or suspected fake marriage?
that guy was F1 student but applied for the greencard with sth like "investing visa"(dont know what exactly that)...
and he had been waiting for his GC for 5-6 yrs as he worked off campus.(illegal working.. yah)but he still did not get GC in that way...
so..
now... he got a wedding Cer. 20 days ago...
did the medical check...etc.
they are not living together currently...
but i guess they will have one addressed things very soon to show to INS.
i am confused...
what's the right thing to do?
let it go this illegal activity?
if i report as a suspected fake marriage, what eveidence do i need to provide?
anyone got an idea??