When did your relationship with UK friends and family start to fade
#91
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I'm glad you're happy with it but I don't think it sells as a holiday because it's not different enough from what people have at home; if they want to be in a boat they can go to Norfolk. On holiday people want heat, scenery, experiences. Disney is, for people who like it, a blockbuster experience.
I don’t see it that way, as I said before its not just about the place, its my new home, and meeting my friends that I used to talk about a lot. And to be fair Canada can be anything you want it to be, Ive done all the Greece Turkey Spain beach holidays…. And I remember on my first trip to see a friend in Canada at his friends cottage, where he had all the toys, tubing, water skiing, jetski etc what a great time!
Ive been on a boat on the broads – and although I thoroughly enjoyed it – its not the Kawartha’s; the Trent Severn Waterway is one of the most beautiful stretches of water in Canada….. I thought why bother with package holidays and crowded beaches to Spain again when I have this paradise. . Canada certainly has heat in the summer, just down the road is Cobourg beach – if you want beaches. Canada’s wonderland if you want a theme park. Lots of Tourist stuff in TO and Ottawa. Plus on top of that a group of ready made friends for them to meet that would welcome them as much as I would.
I guarantee they would go back home saying "why didn’t we do that sooner".
A friend of mine and his wife came over a couple of years ago….they came for a week and I had lots of stuff planned and lot of people for them to meet. The last thing he said to me was what a fantastic holiday, and what great fun people we have met, we will be back for sure.
#92
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Re: When did your relationship with UK friends and family start to fade
So that does sound like the thing to do, try to keep the bond going from afar and keep sending the photos of things to do and things you are doing that they may like. Hopefully then the nephews will start hassling the parents to let them visit you. Also start saying 'when you come to visit', rather than 'if you come to visit'
#93
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I would have killed for someone to offer to take my kids for a couple of weeks in the summer! Yay! Have them! � ����
A few years ago, we flew home for my brother in laws 40th party (and had a holiday). Early in the evening my hubby was standing around chatting to another of his brothers (who I don't think has really ever forgiven him for leaving, nor understood why he might want to). There was yet another invitation to all of them to come and visit us. "Why would I want to go to Canada?" was the response. It took all my withered jet-lagged energy not to retort "Cos your f***ing brother lives there"
Things cooled after that and we never invited them again.
Those that have visited have, funnily enough, have remained our closest friends and contacts. Chicken and egg. Or were they our better mates in the first place and that's why they visited?
A few years ago, we flew home for my brother in laws 40th party (and had a holiday). Early in the evening my hubby was standing around chatting to another of his brothers (who I don't think has really ever forgiven him for leaving, nor understood why he might want to). There was yet another invitation to all of them to come and visit us. "Why would I want to go to Canada?" was the response. It took all my withered jet-lagged energy not to retort "Cos your f***ing brother lives there"
Things cooled after that and we never invited them again.
Those that have visited have, funnily enough, have remained our closest friends and contacts. Chicken and egg. Or were they our better mates in the first place and that's why they visited?
And yes my two friends that have visited me are my two friends i have most contact with - communication is 50/50 there, which shows it is possible. And strangely enough they were relatively new friendships when i left the UK, our friendship has become closer since, while friends with more of a history have started to drift away now.
#94
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So that does sound like the thing to do, try to keep the bond going from afar and keep sending the photos of things to do and things you are doing that they may like. Hopefully then the nephews will start hassling the parents to let them visit you. Also start saying 'when you come to visit', rather than 'if you come to visit'
It sounds very quiet where you live in the US? do you think thats why you havent had any visitors?
#95
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a "little" hehe ,builds choppers back in Scotland (when hes not working) was in iron horse, backstreet heroes back in the day.Was asked to go back to play bagpipes at "buffalo???" campground. He was working in MB till a cancer scare (thorax) when he went back to Scotland ,recovered then this year tumours on his spine terminal.we were hoping to go to a east coast USA show to celebrate him being a year free but not to be.
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Re: When did your relationship with UK friends and family start to fade
Yes, thats where i am at now, I always try and send pictures of interest, things that he wouldnt see or do in the UK. I didnt want to put "when you visit" though as i dont want to give him false hope, until ive raised the subject with my sister and shes in agreement for them to let them visit me in the future. Then i feel i can say when instead of if.
It sounds very quiet where you live in the US? do you think thats why you havent had any visitors?
It sounds very quiet where you live in the US? do you think thats why you havent had any visitors?
There is Seabreeze amusement park nearby and of course, the lake! The canal and the river are good for fishing, and walking - and so is the lake!
For other outdoorsy things, there is Mendon Ponds Park (with a bird sanctuary), Letchworth state park isn't far, there are smaller parks nearer. Also, the finger lakes are close - we could take people to Watkins Glen, which I would love! The finger lakes area is really a wine area, so we could do a tour of wine places with friends.
I think the biggest problems with my friends visiting is either they can't afford it, or they get too busy or they just can't be bothered to sort something out. They go back to the same places every year for holidays, do the same round of work and home every day, and then stuff near to them on weekends. As for family, they are either too old, or too busy looking after their older immediate relatives, or don't have the money.
But I think for some of them, if they could just fly into New York, for instance, and see us there, they would do that. But to change flights is too much hassle.
If I actually arranged something, like invited everyone for a special event, and arranged the flights, hotels, and paid for it all, I think I would get some to turn up. But otherwise, as I said before, they are all wrapped up in their life...
#97
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If I actually arranged something, like invited everyone for a special event, and arranged the flights, hotels, and paid for it all, I think I would get some to turn up. But otherwise, as I said before, they are all wrapped up in their life...
Same here....im sure if i were to get married or something like that i may get them to visit then, but I feel even that is not 100%! Other than an event, im on my own, and sounds like many other people have a similar scenario too.
After reading many peoples input on here, im ok with that now.....dissapointed yes, but it is just a fact of life, push the door to (but not clicked shut) and move on with my life and good friends/adopted family i have here in Canada now.
Same here....im sure if i were to get married or something like that i may get them to visit then, but I feel even that is not 100%! Other than an event, im on my own, and sounds like many other people have a similar scenario too.
After reading many peoples input on here, im ok with that now.....dissapointed yes, but it is just a fact of life, push the door to (but not clicked shut) and move on with my life and good friends/adopted family i have here in Canada now.
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#98
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I have a friend in England who asks occasionally when I'm moving home...she doesn't understand that I am home!
Another has been planning a visit for 5 years now...keeps delaying. Not entirely sure she will ever make it!
Another has been planning a visit for 5 years now...keeps delaying. Not entirely sure she will ever make it!
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We have one friend who has been to visit once, travelling with a friend who went on to see family in Victoria and then came back here to meet her for the return trip.
She was one of my best friends at university, and also knew OH back then.
That visit was back in about 1996 .......
.......... she has said every year that she would love to come back for another visit.
BUT she hates flying, and doesn't seem able co-ordinate another trip at the same time as the friend she came with before!
She's been divorced almost 30 years, and kids are off, married and with their own families with no interest in accompanying Mum to Canada. After all, they don't know us
Not sure what we do now!
She was one of my best friends at university, and also knew OH back then.
That visit was back in about 1996 .......
.......... she has said every year that she would love to come back for another visit.
BUT she hates flying, and doesn't seem able co-ordinate another trip at the same time as the friend she came with before!
She's been divorced almost 30 years, and kids are off, married and with their own families with no interest in accompanying Mum to Canada. After all, they don't know us
Not sure what we do now!
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I think the biggest problems with my friends visiting is either they can't afford it, or they get too busy or they just can't be bothered to sort something out. They go back to the same places every year for holidays, do the same round of work and home every day, and then stuff near to them on weekends. As for family, they are either too old, or too busy looking after their older immediate relatives, or don't have the money.
But I think for some of them, if they could just fly into New York, for instance, and see us there, they would do that. But to change flights is too much hassle.
If I actually arranged something, like invited everyone for a special event, and arranged the flights, hotels, and paid for it all, I think I would get some to turn up. But otherwise, as I said before, they are all wrapped up in their life...
But I think for some of them, if they could just fly into New York, for instance, and see us there, they would do that. But to change flights is too much hassle.
If I actually arranged something, like invited everyone for a special event, and arranged the flights, hotels, and paid for it all, I think I would get some to turn up. But otherwise, as I said before, they are all wrapped up in their life...
I'm not at all convinced that is true!
We live within a 10 minute drive of a major international airport .......... hasn't made much difference in the UK ones who visit and those who don't!!
What we have ended up being is the change point for various family members for my sis-i-l and her husband ..................
OH's parents would come for a 3 week visit every couple of years, split their time very carefully between us and sis-i-l in the north ...... that meant about 5 days with us, fly north for 9 or 10 days, and 5 days back with us.
Similarly, OH and sis's cousin and family have arrived here for 1 or 2 nights before going north
Sis-i-l's husband was Swiss ........... over the years we have hosted his parents, his sister and husband, and his brother and partner, 1 or 2 days with us on arriving, and sometimes another 1 or nights at the end of their trip if they could not arrange a flight south that connected with a same-day flight back to Switzerland.
Now that has been interesting, and we have been able to stay with the "family" in Switzerland on a couple of visits there.
But the closeness to the airport hasn't seemed to encourage many other visits ........... it was possibly the reason why the friend mentioned in my post above was able to travel, in addition to her friend who was willing to put up with her incredible anxiety during the flights.
We've had visits from more friends made after we left the UK ............ 1 couple from S Africa have been 3 times a Swiss couple twice, etc. We've also had cousins from Australia more than once!
#101
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Ha ha. We're doing a kitchen renovation right now, and brother in law says "I suppose that means you won't be moving back anytime soon?" Huh? We weren't planning on moving back any time soon
#102
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Same friend lived in the Middle East for many years. For a while hubby got a job in London so they moved back to the U.K. But he went back out there maybe ten years ago and they live separate lives except for trips back for him every few months and visits there for her and the kids.
To me that's not a life... I want to actually live with my husband!
#103
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I think for a lot of people in the UK see moving to Canada as a temporary escape or adventure and they believe that people will eventually get bored or come to their senses and move back home. Most people would see the UK as a more prosperous and dynamic country than Canada so its no wonder they fail to see why anyone would choose to spend the rest of their lives there when they don't have to.
#104
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I think for a lot of people in the UK see moving to Canada as a temporary escape or adventure and they believe that people will eventually get bored or come to their senses and move back home. Most people would see the UK as a more prosperous and dynamic country than Canada so its no wonder they fail to see why anyone would choose to spend the rest of their lives there when they don't have to.
The brother in question cannot tell if Canada is a boring ends-of-the-earth hellhole or a nirvana of beauty because he has never been.
I have never said (to family or in this forum) we would never return to the UK. But for now and the foreseeable future, this is home, and it's nice to feel this settled here after such a rocky and dodgy first few years. So a kitchen reno it is then. 🙂
#105
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Thank you for your considered post Oink! 😉
The brother in question cannot tell if Canada is a boring ends-of-the-earth hellhole or a nirvana of beauty because he has never been.
I have never said (to family or in this forum) we would never return to the UK. But for now and the foreseeable future, this is home, and it's nice to feel this settled here after such a rocky and dodgy first few years. So a kitchen reno it is then. 🙂
The brother in question cannot tell if Canada is a boring ends-of-the-earth hellhole or a nirvana of beauty because he has never been.
I have never said (to family or in this forum) we would never return to the UK. But for now and the foreseeable future, this is home, and it's nice to feel this settled here after such a rocky and dodgy first few years. So a kitchen reno it is then. 🙂