Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
#46
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Re: Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
No, no, I lost interest in the judge itemising what he was going to do before then doing it
It wasn't my implication but that in the newspaper report.
There was widespread surprise and condemnation of the verdict. The National Post says read this and now imagine you are a juror.
That's a clear explanation of why the writer thinks the jury voted as they did. That's a very strong implication.
Well, yes, that's why a gave a specific example of exactly that happening.
You're a bit quick to rush to judgment.
It wasn't my implication but that in the newspaper report.
There was widespread surprise and condemnation of the verdict. The National Post says read this and now imagine you are a juror.
That's a clear explanation of why the writer thinks the jury voted as they did. That's a very strong implication.
Well, yes, that's why a gave a specific example of exactly that happening.
You're a bit quick to rush to judgment.
See here is the problem when the media reports on something they add their creative bit to it. Why did the reporter imply it was the judge suggesting a not guilty verdict? Did you see anything in the article to suggest this? Are people sometimes influenced in what they read or hear in the Media?
The judge did what he was legally bound to and if the writer thinks the judge was giving them a nod and a wink to find him not guilty then they need to find another job.
I agree with the premise of posting the transcript and then let you decide but only on the transcript itself and not what the writer may think as these are the types of things that cause problems.
I wonder what his big bosses now think about the article or is their no accountability in reporting?
I apologize if you took offence.
#47
Re: Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
It was there, in the opening part. Very often, a headline and/or sub heading/opening paragraph will say something that's not backed up by the rest of the words.
You must have seen "Fergie slams ref" headlines only to read he did nothing of the sort.
The Guardian does it too.
Of course.
I didn't take any. I was just a bit surprised that you took my suggestion of the journalist's implication as being my implication.
You must have seen "Fergie slams ref" headlines only to read he did nothing of the sort.
The Guardian does it too.
Are people sometimes influenced in what they read or hear in the Media?
I apologize if you took offence.
#48
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Re: Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
It was there, in the opening part. Very often, a headline and/or sub heading/opening paragraph will say something that's not backed up by the rest of the words.
You must have seen "Fergie slams ref" headlines only to read he did nothing of the sort.
The Guardian does it too.
Of course.
I didn't take any. I was just a bit surprised that you took my suggestion of the journalist's implication as being my implication.
You must have seen "Fergie slams ref" headlines only to read he did nothing of the sort.
The Guardian does it too.
Of course.
I didn't take any. I was just a bit surprised that you took my suggestion of the journalist's implication as being my implication.
#50
Re: Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
The Crown can appeal if they find fault with the judge's charge to the jury, as you know, and that's why he spent a whole day writing it. Without including all the necessary elements of instruction he wouldn't be doing his duty. Trial transcripts are $2.75/page when they get them ready. When Colin Thatcher was up for killing his wife someone bought 1 copy of the preliminary hearing and we just kept it on the bar for everyone to read and pass around, but back then transcripts came from the Queens Printer, (name now changed) at a nominal cost.
#51
Re: Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
The Crown can appeal if they find fault with the judge's charge to the jury, as you know, and that's why he spent a whole day writing it. Without including all the necessary elements of instruction he wouldn't be doing his duty. Trial transcripts are $2.75/page when they get them ready. When Colin Thatcher was up for killing his wife someone bought 1 copy of the preliminary hearing and we just kept it on the bar for everyone to read and pass around, but back then transcripts came from the Queens Printer, (name now changed) at a nominal cost.
Again, in Alberta, all hearings in Court are tape recorded and anyone can request a copy of any transcript they want, subject to the original recording still being available.
#52
Re: Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
That's a shame, I thought attitudes were generally shifting for the better. There will always be a segment on non-FN Canadians that look down on the Natives, just as there are some Brits who might look down on "the other" but I had thought the segments were shrinking. Hard to know anecdotally. And it's probably different between Ontario and BC too.
#53
Re: Saskatchewan farmer not guilty in fatal shooting of Indigenous man
Doug Cuthand's observations on the anniversary of the verdict:
https://leaderpost.com/opinion/colum...2-44b617477248
https://leaderpost.com/opinion/colum...2-44b617477248