macadian

As far as I have been able to understand, unless they are admitted into Canada at a Border Crossing, they have entered Canada illegally?

Former Lancastrian

Correct and the reason why they do this is because if they actually use the official border crossing like anyone else coming from the USA they will be sent back to the USA if not exempt under the safe Third Country Agreement.
This has been a loophole for many years and is now being used by claimants.

macadian

Soooooooo, they can't be deported back to the USA, because they will refuse to admit them? So Canada is stuck with them, and what it costs to keep them? Some loophole! 🤔

Former Lancastrian

Don't forget there will be quite a few CBSA officers (not me) who will be working overtime as well and Im sure they will be grateful for this extra money

Shard

Assuming refugee status is granted; if it isn't, he will be heading home.

macadian

Given that his country of origin (home) would admit him?

BristolUK

Presumably he won't be claiming to have "left Africa to south America working his way up over 3yrs, spending year and more in the usa driving a truck and coming clean about the lost appeals..." as that won't help his case.

So he's going to have to come up with some other version which will be so completely made up, because he's got no experience of the last three years for wherever it will be that he will claim to be from that he might just have a problem convincing the authorities that he's genuine.

Thairetired2016

Germany does allow private sponsorship. However, many sponsors are not aware of the financial commitment they are entering into. There is very little input from the state towards private sponsorship.

Former Lancastrian

Or that Canada doesn't have an Administrative Deferral Of Removal or Temporary Suspension Of Removal to his country of citizenship or could obtain a travel document from whatever country.

ADR covers the following countries
An ADR is currently in place for certain regions in Somalia (Middle Shabelle, Afgoye, and Mogadishu), the Gaza Strip, Syria, Mali, the Central African Republic, South Sudan, Libya, Yemen, Burundi, and Haiti.
Canada currently has a TSR in place for Afghanistan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and Iraq. The primary differences between the TSR and the ADR are that an ADR is generally put in place for a short period of time.

DigitalGhost

You see, I would argue that once you have left one continent for another, bypassing numerous perfectly safe countries along the way, you are not really a genuine asylum seeker anymore. You're a potential illegal immigrant.

DigitalGhost

I thought America would have to accept them but then could just return them back to their country of origin. Similarly that is why America has mostly turned a blind eye to Canadian TWP holders flag poling over the years. If Canada turns you down then Uncle Sam just sends you right back to where you came from.

I can see additional complications if the 'refugee' isn't carrying any travel documents but surely that doesn't stop it from being America's problem if there is proof that they arrived over the land border.

EDIT: Ah I see now. Based on FL's comments it is because they are bypassing the normal checkpoints and taking a clandestine route across the land border instead. The key difference is where you cross over.

jamesmc

the guy from Somalia said all this on a CBC MB early morning interview so its all on record.

jamesmc

They better hope when they sneak across the border they don't end up on Rosseau river first nation ,they are not known to be welcoming to outsiders on tribal land.(I worked along side a few of them ,nice folk but .)

caretaker

This is the CBC story: Desperate journey

Former Lancastrian

Another 21 crossed early Saturday morning
Another 21 asylum seekers cross into Manitoba Saturday morning - Manitoba - CBC News