MarkG

Labour could recover, but they'd have to drop everything they currently stand for. Instead of the party of government employees and foreigners, they'd have to become the party of the British working class.

I can't see that happening. After their dismal failure in this election, they're far more likely to double-down and replace Corbyn with someone even more extreme.

BristolUK

That's an odd thing to say. Labour governments have been no better for government employees than Tory ones.

YoshiPal2010

What, like they were when they were first founded. Trouble is, a lot of people don't like to think of themselves as "working class".

Shard

In Britain? Are you kidding?

Pizzawheel

May wins, Scotland leaves taking the 60-ish Left MPs again, hard brexit, a decade of the tories until England realises the libs are now the opposition, elections resume sometime after 2035.

dave_j

OK so we're looking into the tea leaves...

May wins second election. Scotland doesn't leave.
Greece implodes and leaves euro, defaults on debts brings about another bank crisis. At least one other country suffers from high euro and needs bailout but doesn't get one, defaults on debts, deepens bank crisis, leaves euro. Euro crashes, Germany cheers.
IS goes underground and abandons Arabia, attacks europe.
Trump abandoned by republicans, bank crisis worse and Dow Jones slumps. Wall falls over as tunnels undermine it. US citizens invade Canada.
North Korea launches one missile too many and Kim assassinated.
Space X sends tourists to the moon but loses them.
Florida wiped out as climate change generates a new category of hurricane.
San Andreas slips and West Coast sinks 20m, millions dead.
Yellowstone super volcano erupts and the north west american continent become uninhabitable.
Alien spacecraft arrive and mistake a friendly satellite launch as an attack and obliterate Asia and Europe.
The four horsemen of the Appocolypse arrive but leave when they see they can do nothing to make things worse.
Trump tells Sean Spicer to tell the US that everything is fantastic and wonderful. Runs for second etherial term and the dead vote for him. He wins and declares that he's won by the greatest dead majority in the history of the Universe.
The sun explodes.
The End.

bats

Where I'm registered the vote the Tories have a majority with Labour and Lib Dems almost joint second splitting any effective opposing votes. so bloody annoying if those snotty bar stewards get back in and continue to ruin the NHS and abandon disabled people.

Shard

...and today, Theresa has pledged to "protect worker's rights"! You couldn't make it up, really.

Novocastrian

Luckily. my vote is in a Labour held constituency. So my protest vote for Labour won't make any difference.

jimf

"....a certain type of socialist – a type they believed to be utterly out of touch with their lives, views and interests. Orwell agreed. This type of socialist, he complained bitterly, was “bearded”, “vegetarian”, “teetotal”, “prim”, “middle-class”, “a crank” and “a pacifist”."

What would George Orwell think of Jeremy Corbyn?

OtherDave

UKIP are going to end up on zero seats after this election, and were crushed in the local elections. They're done. Unfortunately that's as a result of Brexit likely going ahead.

OtherDave

That sounds about right. They'll argue they're not middle class or upper class because they don't want to be seen as horrible rich people, and then vote like they are middle or upper class because that's what they privately aspire to be.

Shard

It's encouraging to see that Theresa does not have a total landslide on here (at least). Jezza seems to be rising to the challenge, he certainly seems a more viable candidate than he did when first appointed, but despite that and a populist manifesto his choice of sidekicks (Dianne Abbot and John McDonnell) will raise serious fears in any sane elector. And the Lib Dems continue to demonstrate a lack of political nous.

bats

No need for ukip when the conservatives are doing their job for them

dave_j

Hmm.. So given that it is the opinion of sage BE opinionators that sane electors will think at least twice before supporting Corbyn and that Lib Dems appear to be politically illterate and that UKIP are a spent force, how is it encouraging that May has so little support on this site? What does this say about our powers of reasoning?