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Old Nov 29th 2017, 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by caretaker
We put a gender neutral washroom in the bar.
There was an article a few weeks ago on the news, I think it was in Alberta but anyhow a school was redone and they put in neutral gender washrooms, and apparently a bit too many, and not enough traditional washrooms, and the students are not too happy about it.
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There was an article a few weeks ago on the news, I think it was in Alberta but anyhow a school was redone and they put in neutral gender washrooms, and apparently a bit too many, and not enough traditional washrooms, and the students are not too happy about it.
It certainly seems like they went overboard, but it's also a failure of the building code if they have the minimum number of gender specific facilities and it isn't sufficient. What we did was construct 2 new single washrooms, both wheelchair accessible, one gender neutral and one a spare women's in addition to what is required under code for our maximum capacity. In that high school, if the building code allowed, I'd take the quick fix and just move a few of the signs around.
Alberta high school students and parents upset over gender-neutral bathrooms - Edmonton - CBC News
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
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:My hovercraft is full of eels:


Well done! Not actually cussing but an impressive looking string of squiggles.
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Originally Posted by caretaker
It certainly seems like they went overboard, but it's also a failure of the building code if they have the minimum number of gender specific facilities and it isn't sufficient. What we did was construct 2 new single washrooms, both wheelchair accessible, one gender neutral and one a spare women's in addition to what is required under code for our maximum capacity. In that high school, if the building code allowed, I'd take the quick fix and just move a few of the signs around.
Alberta high school students and parents upset over gender-neutral bathrooms - Edmonton - CBC News
The existence of gender-neutral accessible washrooms is extremely helpful. It means, for example, that a chap can assist his disabled daughter in the necessary without any more than the usual embarrassment to either party. Well done you!
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Well done! Not actually cussing but an impressive looking string of squiggles.
One of my favourite get-a-load-of-blank-looks lines was from a former colleague waxing lyrical over how well her kids had got on with some craft activity they'd tried for the first time.

"They took to it like eels to a hovercraft," she said. Only one other person round the table even so much as smiled.
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Shit, I've just typed a long and er, thrilling, reply but my iPad barfed and lost it. I might retype it later.
Try using a PC next time.
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Oh dear Catherine that didn't work out quite as planned did it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcj...ature=youtu.be
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Oh dear Catherine that didn't work out quite as planned did it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcj...ature=youtu.be
I think she was up against her match with JP, his logic and statistical recall under pressure is very impressive!
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I think she was up against her match with JP, his logic and statistical recall under pressure is very impressive!
He does seem to be highly proficient. Looking at the details of the C4 news presenters of the 5 of 6 who have details listed on Wikipedia, 4 were privately educated with 3 having gone to the most elite of schools.
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He does seem to be highly proficient. Looking at the details of the C4 news presenters of the 5 of 6 who have details listed on Wikipedia, 4 were privately educated with 3 having gone to the most elite of schools.
I think you could find much the same proportion across British print and TV media. I like C4, although they are even further left than the Beeb. Cathy Newman is an ok presenter, but she was clearly out of her depth here. It seems like she was given a briefing on who Peterson is and a very specific agenda of points to score. None of which she managed! The 'gotcha' moment towards the end was well earned. She tried to twist practically every comment or answer he gave. As for the lobsters argument, Peterson is probably lucky the interview ended there or he could well have found himself in hot water.
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Originally Posted by Shard
I think you could find much the same proportion across British print and TV media. I like C4, although they are even further left than the Beeb. Cathy Newman is an ok presenter, but she was clearly out of her depth here. It seems like she was given a briefing on who Peterson is and a very specific agenda of points to score. None of which she managed! The 'gotcha' moment towards the end was well earned. She tried to twist practically every comment or answer he gave. As for the lobsters argument, Peterson is probably lucky the interview ended there or he could well have found himself in hot water.
I quite like the C4 format although for the most part the coverage is highly opinionated left wing content, a TV news version of the Guardian.

She kept on saying " So you're saying..." and followed with something JP obviously hadn't actually said at all. Easy for him to correct in those cases. No doubt there are teams of researchers at certain media outlets looking into take down strategies for interviewers to use on him so he will need to up his game...
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Originally Posted by jimf
I quite like the C4 format although for the most part the coverage is highly opinionated left wing content, a TV news version of the Guardian.

She kept on saying " So you're saying..." and followed with something JP obviously hadn't actually said at all. Easy for him to correct in those cases. No doubt there are teams of researchers at certain media outlets looking into take down strategies for interviewers to use on him so he will need to up his game...
It's unfortunate that she/C4 chose to a pure take down strategy, as JP has some interesting insight to add to the equality and pay gap discussion. His point about gender and career selection in relatively egalitarian Sweden is a good one.
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..."They took to it like eels to a hovercraft,"...


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Some analysis...

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Saw some of that earlier, there's been quite a bit of reaction to that interview. Douglas Murray has also written a couple of pieces on it in The Spectator.
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