neilg14

I didn't know Gypo's were a race, learn something new everyday.
And if all the UKIP voters are racist why have the BNP done so badly in all it's years ?
The PC, BS race card gets played every time.
I would have voted UKIP if I was over there and if that makes me a racist then so be it.

neilg14

I didn't know Gypo's were a race, learn something new everyday.
And if all the UKIP voters are racist why have the BNP done so badly in all it's years ?
The PC, BS race card gets played every time.
I would have voted UKIP if I was over there and if that makes me a racist then so be it.

Shard

To the extent that "race" is a valid construct, the gypsies are one, originating from India.

The thing that doesn't make sense to me about "voting UKIP" is that they don't agree with the EU, and abstain from many of the votes and much of the debate, but still want to take their place (and salary/expenses) in the EU parliament. It's a very hypocritical stance.

dbd33

I think I'm developing racism against the straw men.

BristolUK

The UN's view on Racial Discrimination,

Jericho79

Out of interest, why?

Cabbagetown

I would have considered UKIP just for the sole motivation of properties in the UK becoming affordable again, due to lack of demand.

If the UK would leave the EU, so would most likely a lot of businesses, most notably international banking. On top of that the economic impact and loss for the UK would be huge.

bats

Because with UKIP you can be a closet racist, pretend it's all to do with overcrowding. BNP are an obvious bunch of thugs and repel people. UKIP attracts the weak.

The guy who founded UKIP left the party when it removed the sections about the party being non racist from its manifesto. He's pretty scathing about Farage.

Cabbagetown

At least Germany built and re-build an economy on technology and technological advances, the UK seems to be built on ever growing house prices and poor insulation and electrical wiring which per-dates the war years. Same as the British automotive sector, which seems to have gone downhill completely, ever since the end of the war.

This protection business of inefficient Farmers is an EU wide issue not exclusive to France, but completely absent in the UK.

Shard

If you see the number of fruitcakes now representing us in the EU, you might have thought twice on your hypothetical vote! I don't mind Farage, but there are so many nutters in the rest of the so-called party.

There would be less FDI in the UK, but I think the financial sector would continue to thrive, precisely because it could keep itself free of the regulation that the ECB would impose. Norway and Switzerland have thrived outside the EU, Singapore has a strong financial sector despite its economic isolation, so I don't buy the argument that there would be huge economic losses for Britain were it to leave the EU. Not that I am suggesting it should.

Steve_

Lost in all this discussion in the media about who voted for who and what they're going to, etc. is any actual explanation of what the European Parliament actually is and what it does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament

I know it has more power now but at the end of the day it's still largely a talking shop, because okay it might have control of the budget but the member States have control of the money.

And the whole thing will simply move to paralysis, they couldn't even sort out the Services Directive because the French objected so now with all this lot going on they won't do much of anything, imo.

Tirytory

I didn't mean who the Daily Fail were supporting, more that this particular paper writes the sort of articles that play into UKIP's hands and feeds an ignorant hysteria.

Tirytory

So would you have on your move to Canada, been prepared to pay for five years of health care and private education? Do you think you would have been able to? I know we couldn't and therefore wouldn't have moved, but I think we do and will contribute in many different positive ways to Ontario but had Canada enforced UKIP's policies on immigration then moving here wouldn't be an option for many people.

It makes me laugh on reading their position that on apparently leaving the EU will open up SO many jobs to "Brits" as if they aren't open to them already.

Steve_

All this election illustrates to me is how important it is to apply for citizenship of wherever you live. You may move from one part of the EU to the other and think the law will never change - wrong. Look at what just happened. Look at what happened in Switzerland recently.

All it takes is a recession with the right sprinkling of paranoia.

confused_uk

But Canada has controlled immigration, if they decided there was a real strain on their resources they have the power to close their borders or at least reduce the numbers, the UK doesn't have that luxury. Also plenty of people move to the US which doesn't have free healthcare so it won't stop people emigrating to the UK, they would just have to weigh up the pros & cons like anyone emigrating does. I'm not saying I agree with putting in restrictions on people perfectly entitled to live in the UK, but I do agree with having a Canadian type system of letting people in.