Do you have backup heat source?
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Re: Do you have backup heat source?
we have a gas stove , not convinced how well it would work in a power outage, i suspect that there may be electricity involved in the pumping or distribution
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I have found/find propane useful, as I've never lived (in Canada) in an area with mains gas supply.
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Our gas stove works by gaseousness or gasiotity or something; gas appears in the jets even when there's no electric power. The igniters are electric but a match also works.
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You may consider looking at a back up battery power supply for your sump pump in the form of a couple of 110 amp 12 volt deep cycle batteries via an invert-er.
Brother in law has this set up and keeps his sump pump running in the event of a power out. Has saved a basement flood more than once. This system kicks in automatically in the event of a power failure. Batteries are maintained at full charge on an ongoing basis when hydro available.
Brother in law has this set up and keeps his sump pump running in the event of a power out. Has saved a basement flood more than once. This system kicks in automatically in the event of a power failure. Batteries are maintained at full charge on an ongoing basis when hydro available.
For those in the country or at home a quick fix is a 'clip to the car battery (while the car is running) a 1kw inverter [Canadian tire has them) with a long extension cord to the house/apartment applicances.
This will run the small stuff & sump pump.
Best alternate portable whisper quiet generator is the Honda e 2000 (~$1200 Cdn) 2kw as big as a small suitcase & easy to carry & move around.
Honda EU2000i Model Info | Super Quiet 2000 Watt Inverter Generator | Honda Generators
Will run a furnace (gas or oil furnace do cycle on & off)....[110v furnace connection needs a plug & socket adaption] , this little baby will run the cycled furnace, sump pump, lights, even a microwave, computer etc
In fact for the power it closely matches the all in cost of electricity from the utility
Again its about cost & conveinence
jsmith, one of these will not be an issue for you to put on your balcony. The noise level is so low (at 59db) that the street noise (70+db) will be louder.
As another suggestion, there is the available at Canadian, the environment friendly 'kerosene heater' (kero-world brand) rated 10,000btu, also available at Lowes & I'm guessing Costco
My neighbour has one that he has used in his house.
My pick is the Honda generator - do not go with the cheaper unreliable noisy Hyundai version from walmart canada
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My missus keeps moaning that our lighters don't work. I keep trying to explain that, if you leave a butane lighter in a freezing garage, the liquid butane won't reach the gas state.
I am wasting my time.
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the 45th probably being the 38th or something , once you account for the missing 4, 13, 14th and so on floors
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I don't know but the tanks are outside and I've seen -36 on the car thermometer and it all still works at that point. I suspect the will to live would give out before the gas froze.
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We have a woodstove but I'm not convinced it would be enough. The room it's in is the biggest and the front door opens from it. There's also an open doorway to the kitchen which, in turn, has an open doorway to a second room.
It used to be our main living room but in the winter we found it never got particularly warm with the heating from the heat pump and the wood stove so we moved temporarily into the other room...and never moved back.
If it wasn't warm with heating and the woodstove, it may not be warm enough with just the latter. Although I suppose there's a difference between comfort and survival.
There is the stove's hot plate as well, so it may provide hot water for coffee or soup. I have the whistling kettle ready but hope never to have to try it.
It used to be our main living room but in the winter we found it never got particularly warm with the heating from the heat pump and the wood stove so we moved temporarily into the other room...and never moved back.
If it wasn't warm with heating and the woodstove, it may not be warm enough with just the latter. Although I suppose there's a difference between comfort and survival.
There is the stove's hot plate as well, so it may provide hot water for coffee or soup. I have the whistling kettle ready but hope never to have to try it.
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Oddly enough, I had to leave work early tonight due to another power outage that took all the computers down. We haven't had one in our house for quite a while, but I'll probably be replacing some hard drives again when I get in to the office tomorrow.
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Does this power a plug in kettle or even a pop-up toaster? I keep reading contradictory reviews about its capabilities
http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Cana...id=225&hei=225
http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Cana...id=225&hei=225
No is the simple answer, they just don't have the total stored energy capacity required so would be ruined in not many cycles if you tried. Even deep cycle batteries are much happier if they are never fully discharged and these would be even worse.
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Best alternate portable whisper quiet generator is the Honda e 2000 (~$1200 Cdn) 2kw as big as a small suitcase & easy to carry & move around.
Honda EU2000i Model Info | Super Quiet 2000 Watt Inverter Generator | Honda Generators
My pick is the Honda generator - do not go with the cheaper unreliable noisy Hyundai version from walmart canada
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The blurb says it will run "small to medium appliances" so what are these small to medium appliances that are smaller than kettles and toasters?
Or is it highly misleading advertising?