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Old Sep 26th 2017, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
I'm in a low-skilled job that may be supplanted by, but not replaced by technology for the same cost.

I work as event security, and as a door supervisor.
Sorry, but VR is going to eliminate the need for most people to physically go to events over the next couple of decades.

It really is different this time. Most people have no idea of the tsunami of change that's heading our way.
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There was a chart doing the rounds about professions under threat. I think the one that is predicted to be cut the most is accountancy by 95%. I found this fascinating as my parents used to tell me accountants always found work.

But really I wouldn't be overly concerned. Most generations see jobs come and go and we'll have many new professions.

Cybercrime, data theft and hacking is on the rise and with the growth of blockchain technology will only get worse so self driving cars etc...will take longer than most people think. Too many security and liability issues before big business even begins to lobby things.

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Originally Posted by MarkG
Sorry, but VR is going to eliminate the need for most people to physically go to events over the next couple of decades. ....
It might eliminate the "need", but it won't eliminate the "want".

I think it was Kevin Godley who declared the rock concert dead nearly 40 years ago as the "pop video" phenomenon took off and yet today video is a fairly stale concept, but people across all genres of music still enjoy going to concerts.
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I was playing with Occulus Rift t'other day and that was amazing. The closest I have ever felt to being with people (more so than Skype et al), and we (four people playing a game spread across the world) were even just characters in a game
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
You should be fine then. There are always openings.
Sadly...for some...there are also closings....
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
It might eliminate the "need", but it won't eliminate the "want".
For some dedicated fans, maybe. But when bands realize they can play to 20,000,000 people without having to travel for weeks and hire huge stadiums, the maths will become hard to ignore.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
It might eliminate the "need", but it won't eliminate the "want".

I think it was Kevin Godley who declared the rock concert dead nearly 40 years ago as the "pop video" phenomenon took off and yet today video is a fairly stale concept, but people across all genres of music still enjoy going to concerts.
Yes, tend to agree that people often prefer traditional things. Movie theatres would be another example, as would paper books. I think as the tech moves forward, the drive for 'authenticity' will increase.
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For some dedicated fans, maybe. But when bands realize they can play to 20,000,000 people without having to travel for weeks and hire huge stadiums, the maths will become hard to ignore.
But for live music much of it is presence. Even if the tech provides an identical 'experience' it's still not actual live, and psychologically people want that.

For example, there have been tests to show that a good violin can sound identical to a Stradivarius, but people still available insist on hearing the latter.
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Originally Posted by Davita
Sadly...for some...there are also closings....
It's hardly an open and shut case.
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Originally Posted by MarkG
For some dedicated fans, maybe. But when bands realize they can play to 20,000,000 people without having to travel for weeks and hire huge stadiums, the maths will become hard to ignore.

The artist may feel selling to 20,000,000 will make them some easy money. But I'm not sure the uptake will be that high and I doubt it'll be a replacement for live performance. However I'm sure it will be an add-on to the likes of Glastonbury for those that couldn't get tickets.


For me, catching up with friends, having a few beers and getting uncomfortably sweaty with a bunch of strangers listening to awesome music will never be replaced by sitting in my underpants in my living room with a VR headset on...


I think technology will go a long way, but I can't ever see live performances being replaced by VR or anything else. We've had live performance since the dawn of civilization. It's one thing that has lasted throughout the ages across all societies in the world and despite recorded sound, recorded video, live video and big screens; it has endured and grown.
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Originally Posted by Shard
But for live music much of it is presence. Even if the tech provides an identical 'experience' it's still not actual live, and psychologically people want that.

For example, there have been tests to show that a good violin can sound identical to a Stradivarius, but people still available insist on hearing the latter.
I bought a few concert videos back in the 1980's and early 90's, of my very favourite bands. I am not sure that I have ever watched one all the way through, certainly not in one sitting. Since then some of the CDs I have bought came with a free DVD - I am fairly certain I have never ever watched a single one, meaning I haven't even taken them out of the box.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski
I bought a few concert videos back in the 1980's and early 90's, of my very favourite bands. I am not sure that I have ever watched one all the way through, certainly not in one sitting. Since then some of the CDs I have bought came with a free DVD - I am fairly certain I have never ever watched a single one, meaning I haven't even taken them out of the box.
I'm the opposite. Love watching old concert videos multiple times! Have never bought one, but plenty are downloadable on Sky.
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Default Re: The difference between the US & Canada?

The USA - Anything is possible attitude.

Canada - half ar$ed is the gold standard. Chuff it that will do lets go for a coffee and bitch about how busy we are.

Protract this out over a few hundred years and there you have it.
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Canada will always have a need for people because they refuse to accept change / automation. When I go to Sobeys I head for the self checkout option because the cashiers insist on packing my bags very, very badly! Yet everyone else refuses to use them because they are taking jobs. Oh, and they're too lazy to pack their own bags, so the cashiers do it once they've scanned everything, which makes the queues longer.
I'm not complaining as self checkout is win-win for me (no waiting & well packed bags) but it's typical of the let's remain in the dark ages because that's the way it's always been done attitude that is prevalent in Canada.

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Default Re: The difference between the US & Canada?

Originally Posted by Alex2201
The USA - Anything is possible attitude.

Canada - half ar$ed is the gold standard. Chuff it that will do lets go for a coffee and bitch about how busy we are.

Protract this out over a few hundred years and there you have it.
Totally agree:
USA - anything is possible
UK - it may be possible
Canada - can't possibly try something different
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