Bill C46
Dec 6th 2018, 3:33 pm
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Bill C46
Part II of Bill C-46
Part II of Bill C-46, which will come into force on December 18, 2018, will allow police to conduct roadside breath alcohol testing, without having suspicion of alcohol consumption, when a motorist is lawfully stopped by police.why not just call it random stop n search or “carding lte” Lol
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Dec 6th 2018, 3:45 pm
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Re: Bill C46
Part II of Bill C-46
Part II of Bill C-46, which will come into force on December 18, 2018, will allow police to conduct roadside breath alcohol testing, without having suspicion of alcohol consumption, when a motorist is lawfully stopped by police.
why not just call it random stop n search or “carding lte” Lol Sneeky
Part II of Bill C-46, which will come into force on December 18, 2018, will allow police to conduct roadside breath alcohol testing, without having suspicion of alcohol consumption, when a motorist is lawfully stopped by police.
why not just call it random stop n search or “carding lte” Lol Sneeky
Because they're still supposed to have a reason to pull you over; dirty license plate, tail light out, regular seatbelt/stopcheck,etc. Guess I'll go grab a handfull of snow and clean off my plate.
Dec 6th 2018, 3:51 pm
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Re: Bill C46
Part II of Bill C-46
Part II of Bill C-46, which will come into force on December 18, 2018, will allow police to conduct roadside breath alcohol testing, without having suspicion of alcohol consumption, when a motorist is lawfully stopped by police.why not just call it random stop n search or “carding lte” Lol
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Dec 6th 2018, 3:54 pm
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Re: Bill C46
Starting in December (180 days after Royal Assent), police can require a roadside breath test for any driver. The crucial change is they will no longer need reasonable suspicion the person has been drinking. Drivers who refuse this test face a criminal charge with similar penalties to an impaired driving conviction.
This provoked heated debate during the Senate’s study of Bill C-46, as lawyers and civil liberties groups argued it violated the Charter’s protection against unreasonable searches. There is also concern it will disproportionately affect minorities due to racial profiling
Car Carding could be another term for it Lol
bring it on, let’s catch the gun and gang guys too
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Dec 6th 2018, 4:07 pm
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Re: Bill C46
Random roadside breath testing
Starting in December (180 days after Royal Assent), police can require a roadside breath test for any driver. The crucial change is they will no longer need reasonable suspicion the person has been drinking. Drivers who refuse this test face a criminal charge with similar penalties to an impaired driving conviction.
This provoked heated debate during the Senate’s study of Bill C-46, as lawyers and civil liberties groups argued it violated the Charter’s protection against unreasonable searches. There is also concern it will disproportionately affect minorities due to racial profiling
Car Carding could be another term for it Lol
bring it on, let’s catch the gun and gang guys too
Dec 6th 2018, 4:30 pm
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Dec 6th 2018, 4:51 pm
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Re: Bill C46
They should not be allowed to test for alcohol or such without reasonable suspicion that someone has been drinking, pulling over for something legit is fine, but if the police have no reasonable suspicion that the person is drunk or has been drinking they should not be allowed to conduct the test.
Giving police too much power these days.
Giving police too much power these days.
Dec 6th 2018, 4:56 pm
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Re: Bill C46
They should not be allowed to test for alcohol or such without reasonable suspicion that someone has been drinking, pulling over for something legit is fine, but if the police have no reasonable suspicion that the person is drunk or has been drinking they should not be allowed to conduct the test.
Giving police too much power these days.
Giving police too much power these days.
Making drunk driving socially unacceptable, in whatever way is necessary, is a good thing. I frankly don't give a shit about the "rights" of drivers in this situation. If you haven't been drinking, breathe into the machine, register a zero, and move on. If you have had too much to drink to be driving a car, let's follow up C46 with some properly life-disrupting penalties for driving drunk. If a driver runs the risk of utterly ruining another family's life by getting behind the wheel when impaired, then he (or she) should also run the risk of license suspension, vehicle confiscation, and other financial and/or custodial penalties that wreck their or their family's life at least for a little while.
Dec 6th 2018, 5:01 pm
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Testing is fine if police have legitimate reasonable suspicion to do so, slippery slope in my view.
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Dec 6th 2018, 5:01 pm
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They should not be allowed to test for alcohol or such without reasonable suspicion that someone has been drinking, pulling over for something legit is fine, but if the police have no reasonable suspicion that the person is drunk or has been drinking they should not be allowed to conduct the test.
Giving police too much power these days.
Giving police too much power these days.
Dec 6th 2018, 5:09 pm
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I am not going to argue this, my opinion differs and it's not worth debating all day....
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Dec 6th 2018, 5:27 pm
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drink can can usually be smelled on the breath
Dec 6th 2018, 5:33 pm
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I guess we'll find out what happens when the challenges start hitting the courts.
Dec 6th 2018, 6:30 pm
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They don't ask for license or registration here. They just lean in the window and say "have you had anything to drink today, Sir?". If you say "no" and they don't smell anything they say something like "thank you for your time" and off you go. It's done in an instant. There are, however, always loads of cars parked to one side waiting for the tow truck.
Dec 6th 2018, 7:44 pm
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They don't ask for license or registration here. They just lean in the window and say "have you had anything to drink today, Sir?". If you say "no" and they don't smell anything they say something like "thank you for your time" and off you go. It's done in an instant. There are, however, always loads of cars parked to one side waiting for the tow truck.
As you say though always cars parked on the side with people sitting on the curb.