Cashless society
#16
Re: Cashless society
I know that carrying cash is a risk but, unless thieves have X-ray eyes, it's no more a risk for being mugged than not carrying cash.
It would be a sad day indeed if the amount of cash in my wallet was determined by an arbitrary fear of the threat of robbery. Are you saying that the cash you carry is based on the fear of being mugged?
It would be a sad day indeed if the amount of cash in my wallet was determined by an arbitrary fear of the threat of robbery. Are you saying that the cash you carry is based on the fear of being mugged?
But when I last lived in Germany, people would still buy groceries using a cheque at the. ahem, check out.
Some peasants still do this in France. I'm wondering what it's like in das Heimat these days?
#17
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Re: Cashless society
I use debit often but always carry some cash so I am not completely SOL when debit system fail, which seems to be something I see at least once a week somewhere and a lot of places in Richmond and Vancouver (usually smaller shops and restaurants.) are cash only.
Cash is still popular in this area with small businesses in certain areas.
Not so much in Canada but in the US you get a lower gas price when paying by cash, sometimes as much as 20 cents less per gallon when paying by cash.
Cash is still popular in this area with small businesses in certain areas.
Not so much in Canada but in the US you get a lower gas price when paying by cash, sometimes as much as 20 cents less per gallon when paying by cash.
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#18
Re: Cashless society
I usually have some cash on me, when I was on a tight budget, I preferred using cash over cards. Second hand private car biz is all about cash, as are swap meets and the like.
#19
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Re: Cashless society
As for cheques, I am finally down to 12 per year. Just for rent, the property management company has no electronic method of payment, cheque or money order only.
#20
Re: Cashless society
You, especially you, could be mugged just because of your head-dress.
But when I last lived in Germany, people would still buy groceries using a cheque at the. ahem, check out.
Some peasants still do this in France. I'm wondering what it's like in das Heimat these days?
But when I last lived in Germany, people would still buy groceries using a cheque at the. ahem, check out.
Some peasants still do this in France. I'm wondering what it's like in das Heimat these days?
#21
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Joined: Aug 2016
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Re: Cashless society
There have been pretty significant advances in going cashless in Australia - combination of smartphone payments and Tap & Pay has accelerated the trend. I can go for a couple of weeks without using cash - public transit uses a stored valued card (and that's the only mechanism for payment), the toll roads use a transponder (again the only way to pay), the coffee / sandwich shop at work now encourages customers to use cashless payment (the owner said much easier from a financial management perspective and cuts down on cash loss / handling issues). The gardener wants electronic payment. Even my housekeeper now issues electronic invoices and wants electronic payment. She said "it's just easier to be automated now I've worked out how to do it".
We also don't have to worry about tipping in Australia, so another potential cash item isn't there.
All that said, there are still some businesses that only accept cash (or discourage electronic payments eg for smaller values). But they are certainly fewer than used to be the case. Even some tradies I deal with have said they can't be bothered with cash anymore. The Australian Tax Office tells us the cash black market is alive and well, but as the years pass, I see fewer and fewer instances of where it might be active.
Australia has also just implemented a new payments platform to facilitate real time payments between bank accounts.
As with everything in Australia, all of that comes at a cost. The Reserve Bank has progressively implemented policy that permits merchants to pass on the cost of participating in electronic payment systems to consumers. Credit cards frequently attract a surcharge (even debit cards / EFTPOS can). The practice varies wildly between different merchants. Many big businesses (the airlines and telcos are probably the best examples) relentlessly apply the maximum surcharge permitted for electronic payments. Many other businesses do not - presumably trying to curry customer goodwill, or they recover the costs through their prices.
We also don't have to worry about tipping in Australia, so another potential cash item isn't there.
All that said, there are still some businesses that only accept cash (or discourage electronic payments eg for smaller values). But they are certainly fewer than used to be the case. Even some tradies I deal with have said they can't be bothered with cash anymore. The Australian Tax Office tells us the cash black market is alive and well, but as the years pass, I see fewer and fewer instances of where it might be active.
Australia has also just implemented a new payments platform to facilitate real time payments between bank accounts.
As with everything in Australia, all of that comes at a cost. The Reserve Bank has progressively implemented policy that permits merchants to pass on the cost of participating in electronic payment systems to consumers. Credit cards frequently attract a surcharge (even debit cards / EFTPOS can). The practice varies wildly between different merchants. Many big businesses (the airlines and telcos are probably the best examples) relentlessly apply the maximum surcharge permitted for electronic payments. Many other businesses do not - presumably trying to curry customer goodwill, or they recover the costs through their prices.
#22
Re: Cashless society
It would be a sad day indeed if the amount of cash in my wallet was determined by an arbitrary fear of the threat of robbery.
Are you saying that the cash you carry is based on the fear of being mugged?
#23
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Re: Cashless society
I read somewhere that police advise having instant cash available if one is in an area where casual muggings, mainly by druggies, is prevalent. Further escalation may be avoided as the assailant usually grabs the cash and runs away...whereas fumbling, or denying any cash, can create further problems.
#25
Re: Cashless society
PC - Now Simplii - isn't quite as convenient as it was, now that there are no free machines in Superstore but then other bank's customers didn't have that anyway.
Now it's just CIBC machines to use for no charge, which I imagine is the same for CIBC customers, just as TD customers can only use TD machines free, RBC customers can only use theirs free and so on.
Most of my withdrawals are now cashback at whichever supermarket I'm at, the nearby Shoppers or the mini supermarket up the road.
I've got 3 monthly scheduled debits plus 3 or 4 payments I make as and when and ten debit card uses per month is typical.
#26
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Joined: Jul 2012
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Re: Cashless society
You don't use free banking?
PC - Now Simplii - isn't quite as convenient as it was, now that there are no free machines in Superstore but then other bank's customers didn't have that anyway.
Now it's just CIBC machines to use for no charge, which I imagine is the same for CIBC customers, just as TD customers can only use TD machines free, RBC customers can only use theirs free and so on.
Most of my withdrawals are now cashback at whichever supermarket I'm at, the nearby Shoppers or the mini supermarket up the road.
I've got 3 monthly scheduled debits plus 3 or 4 payments I make as and when and ten debit card uses per month is typical.
PC - Now Simplii - isn't quite as convenient as it was, now that there are no free machines in Superstore but then other bank's customers didn't have that anyway.
Now it's just CIBC machines to use for no charge, which I imagine is the same for CIBC customers, just as TD customers can only use TD machines free, RBC customers can only use theirs free and so on.
Most of my withdrawals are now cashback at whichever supermarket I'm at, the nearby Shoppers or the mini supermarket up the road.
I've got 3 monthly scheduled debits plus 3 or 4 payments I make as and when and ten debit card uses per month is typical.
I like cash though as I spend less if I see the notes leaving my purse.
#27
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Re: Cashless society
I do tend to spend less when I have cash, with a card it's so easy to lose track of spending.
#28
Re: Cashless society
Tangerine offers an unlimited free account including unlimited debit/tap transactions, at least in BC. You can use Scotia bank ATM's free of charge as well as Scotia owns Tangerine.
I do tend to spend less when I have cash, with a card it's so easy to lose track of spending.
I do tend to spend less when I have cash, with a card it's so easy to lose track of spending.
#29
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I spend a couple of grand a month in cash. Not for parking meters though, I use plastic for them, indeed I fed one today with Amex.
#30
Re: Cashless society
I seldom carry cash & use debit or credit tap and go pretty much everywhere.